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27 Aug 12 UTC	Spring, 1903: ...I'm going to hand the game to Russia just to demonstrate what fucking dipsticks you all (perhaps with the exception of Italy) are.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: How am I a "dipstick" I saw that coming? It was obvious the turn Russia helps me is the turn Turkey knows to block his stab. You are the one how NMR'd(non-moving retard). Russia is just to powerful on this variant as is Turkey. Britain isn't stoping the Juggernaut and France isn't helping much by attacking you.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Also Russia to make it more convincing you should have probably built in Sevastopol. You didn't cover yourself which gave you away.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: I was sparring with Russia over Norway until you (Germany) tried to stab me. Don't blame us because you were an idiot, especially after you NMR'd.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Austria, you refused to seek a ceasefire with Italy, you are now being overrun. It doesn't look like you even tried to build a stalemate line either. England, you've said to me that you would rather punish me endlessly for my moves from over a year ago than prevent the juggernaut from succeeding, so I don't see how you can object to my position. The NMR was obviously unintentional (I made sure to finalise my moves before the trip, but it looks like my browser screwed up), obviously, but does anyone think it would have made a difference to my prospects or the course of the game? I am being overrun by three of my four neighbours, and my fourth neighbour is about to be steamrolled.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Also 'tried to stab me' show me where this happened. I thought about it but decided to feint (I had an inkling that you and Russia were communicating) by building fleets, when I saw that the threat was bigger than what I thought I tried to get you on board. I never attacked you.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: GameMaster: Italy voted for a Draw. If everyone votes Draw the game will end and the points are split equally among all the surviving players, regardless of how many supply centers each player has.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Germany Italy wouldn't have agreed to a ceasefire without me returning Ven. Also, I was going to set up a better line against Russia, but I figured he would move in in the fall not Spring. He may have done so early because of your NMR. Now he doesn't need my help to push farther into Germany.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: "Italy wouldn't have agreed to a ceasefire without me returning Ven" it was still your best option. There was no way for you to survive with a hostile Italy, it's really that simple, as you will see. And you choice to not survive is essentially a choice for them to steamroll everyone else. Every decision to continue the squabble when there's an comprehensive threat on the map is a choice to die and drag everyone else down with you, sorry. As for my NMR, if Fr and Ger had stayed out of my centers I might have had a reasonable shot at dislodging A Berlin this round.
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Are you guys serious with your votes for draw? You hoping for a seven way tie or something?
28 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Yes. That's traditionally how you stop a juggernaut, by forcing a tie (7-way or otherwise).
29 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Your traditions are not going to get you anywhere. I doubt thats the way to stop a juggernaut, especially in this case...you do realize that EVERYONE needs to vote for draw in order for the game to end.
29 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: 'Forcing a tie' = all non-juggernaut players cooperating to make a stalemate line, which makes it apparent to the jug that they can't advance any further - thus they vote draw. Granted it relies on a level of cooperation and support lacking amongst the five of us, which is usually why juggernauts usually do so well and are considered so dangerous.
29 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Does anyone doubt that R/T have already won? If so, do you actually have a plan for your own survival? If the answer to both questions is no, then by any self-interested rationale you should be voting draw and entering moves that maximise the chances of said draw going through.
29 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Why would we vote for a 7 way now when in a few turns it will at least be down to 6? Russia will not be able to push too much farther east against France and I in the north, and eventually Turkey can be stopped by some combination of France, Italy and Aust in the south. So why should we let you get a piece of the split?
29 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: That's fine. If you think I expect to survive then you haven't read what I'm saying. I'm just playing contingencies, as it costs nothing to vote draw. I think you're all dead, make my day and prove me wrong.
30 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Austria why dont you just disband and keep this game going..i dont see what you have to wait for, there really is no other option for Albania.
30 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Busy at college and I save every order in every game I just had a conversation about this in another game and I don't want to have another. It is one day phases and I need one full day per phase during weekends that will probably change though.
31 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Wait why are we waiting? It is 2-day phases.
31 Aug 12 UTC	Autumn, 1903: Austria's right. Players are entitled to make use of the full phase length without being wheedled about it. If you don't like waiting for 2-days then why did you join this game?