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The Ambassador (1652 D (B) (B))
11 Jul 15 UTC
WWIV question
What exactly is the difference between the maps/rules for the normal WWI game vs the WWIV (version 6.2) game?
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SLOTerp (0 D)
19 Nov 14 UTC
PBEM New World Order (NWO) at Redscape
Sendric is hosting a PBEM game of NWO at Redscape. If you've never played NWO, it is flat out wild with 40+ players. As an unbalanced game it can fit with different playing styles. Get in touch with Sendric or post at Redscape for signup.

http://www.redscape.com/index.php
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ingebot (1747 D)
05 Jul 15 UTC
Question regarding variant
In the variant Rat Wars, the rules state that some SC squares cannot be occupied by Arrow Rat. However, does that just mean when an arrow rat moves there it doesn't become that person's SC, or an arrow rat cannot move into that square entirely? Like, can you move an arrow rat on such a square just to prevent others from taking the SC?
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peter0586 (1124 D)
05 Jul 15 UTC
Need someone to take over my game.
I'm currently in an anonymous gunboat game in Good position and no longer wish to play. If anyone would like to take over my position pm its not a map for beginners.
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
25 Apr 15 UTC
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The Exploration Game.
The purpose of the game is introducing the Exploration rule within a Fog of War game.
More to follow:
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Snake IV (1154 D)
21 Jun 15 UTC
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Gobble-Earth, thouhts feedback and improvement.
I developed Gobble-Earth, and now that it has been played a bit at this site there is room for analysis of the games and results. Player feedback would be great!
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Luis Aldamiz (1261 D)
05 Jun 15 UTC
How do you LEAVE a game?
I'm not planning to do it but would like to know in order to help quitting positions to be filled with replacements before NMR takes place.
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mapleleaf (1155 D X)
21 Jun 15 UTC
Breaking news in the United States......
....Police arrest Charleston shooter, ask if he's comfortable, can they get him a cold beverage, offer to loosen those tight cuffs......
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axipher (1135 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
Game ID 22697 is crashed
This game crashed a couple weeks ago and remains crashed.
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Anon (?? D)
17 Jun 15 UTC
Live EvT Game
Live EvT Game: gameID=23446
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Strider (1409 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Classic Map
I'm wondering what type of skew games have here?
Strider (1409 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
England 2.72
France 3.24
Italy 2.04
Germany 2.48
Austria 1.93
Turkey 3.3
Russia 2.6
Strider (1409 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Anyone have a comparison for outside vdip?
Turkey at number 1 feels wrong some how. ..
taylor4 (941 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
The skill of those on VDip, plus their likely choice to play the variants rather than Classic?
The other "corner" England seems correct, as does Austria.
Perhaps the Solo, Draw, etc. formula should be addressed ...
Snake IV (1154 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
I think the vdip stats are scewed somewhat from having alot of quite inexperienced people hanging around (comparing to diplomacy of old days when the same players stabbed each other for decades on time). Some countries are disadvantaged because of that; essentially the development have stronger gunboatish tendencies and favours safer and easier to plan nations. Austria is a stronger nation that the stats would indicate, and Russia and France tends to be the strongest ones with Turkey coming in slightly slightly
down. Italy always suck though.

Some PBEM stats below. I've seen other numbers for PBEM as well, but it's pretty much the same story and probably much the same games too).http://diplom.org/Zine/F2006M/Burton/DP_F2006M_best_powers.htm
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
The points per supply center (PPSC) format played as a default setting until about a year ago strongly tilts the advantages to the corner powers. The game already suffers from corner power complex with many inexperienced players as it is, but the PPSC scoring (and points in general) present an environment where it's safer to just kill the guys in the middle and call a draw. In PPSC games, the other corner powers do not have to worry about a solo, because they are less likely to be eliminated.
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
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Thankfully the default game creation setting is rightly now winner take all (WTA), which returns the dynamic of a solo threat. When the winner takes all, players are more likely to play the game properly, and less likely to whore themselves for a few VDip points.
Strider (1409 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Yes but with more than half the games solo regular game dynamics should still come into play. The relative strenghts of a country, including corner positions, how much weight is given to draw over win in these figures?

I was thinking more the predominance of east vrs west alliances my influence these results.

Also the perecption that Russia is one of the strongest countries may be bring it down. After beat up austria casue it's easy the next most common cliché I hear in talk is Russia is getting to strong!
Russia being divided and having two fronts from the start makes that power much less than it appears. But if you want to rally the troops, especially as France, just point them at Russia. France is the better positioni n my view as it has naval and land based capabilities with some easily established DMZs and no enemies behind it.
I think there are numerous reasons at play here. One of them is a refusal by players to attempt to play outside the norms. It is hard to try different game plans when some only grab as many sc's as possible to become defensive enough to be part of the draw. I have played in many games where instead of attempting an alliance that may take some effort, a player stabs and falls back into the old standard play. Italy should be more of a player in games, but it's easier to pig pile him and work from the outside in.
If Italy can pull France to his side, he has a chance. If he can pull France and Germany to his side, the FGI alliance is a good one. If he can get Russia fighting Turkey, even better. Italy just requires negotiation skills which are sadly unavailable in Gunboat.
Strider (1409 D)
15 Jun 15 UTC
Stats don't indicate type of game played is that captured in results.
Could that be included as a new part of info.
Gun boat
Public press
Full press
Anon
Luis Aldamiz (1261 D)
15 Jun 15 UTC
The solo count shows a stronger Russia and a weaker France:
· Turkey 32
· Russia 28
· France 24
· England 23
· Germany 21
· Austria 12
· Italy 12

The "performance" score is pointless because it counts each draw as 1/3 of a victory (LOL) and survival as 1/15 of a victory instead of just counting both as zero, as they should. The score of France is inflated because it has record participation in draws. Instead Russia has the lowest drawing record and a poor survival record (3rd worst after Austria and Germany). France is just better at surviving (and hence drawing) than Russia is.

Anyhow it's clear that Austria is being ganged on way too much and that Turkey is not being kept under lock often enough. That's surely a perception bias of rookie players, who don't realize just how deadly an unleashed Turkey can be.
Luis Aldamiz (1261 D)
15 Jun 15 UTC
The average solo per power is 21.7, so Germany is the one closest to the average, followed by England and France. Austria and Italy are doing very bad, almost half of their share. It's true that they are the least loved powers for good reasons but I'd expect a bit higher score, at least for Austria.

I found an old article with two 1995 statistical analyses for comparison: http://diplom.org/Zine/F1999R/Windsor/dipmap.html

Neither gave Turkey such a good performance. Russia and France were the best performing powers instead, with England coming close and Turkey in a solid 4th position. Russia being a good winner but mediocre survivor seems to be confirmed. Austria ranked a bit better back then. Italy has always been the little guy.
Strider (1409 D)
15 Jun 15 UTC
Mmm so site is skewed and in favor of draw and ppsc. Lets make somegames and skew it right back.
Classic wta anon and take no prisoners.
Who's up for it!
Snake IV (1154 D)
15 Jun 15 UTC
Sounds good. Stab stab.


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xywolf (919 D)
12 Jun 15 UTC
American Empire?
I'm interested in trying out the Fall of the American Emipre IV variant, but it requires 10 players, so I was wondering if anyone was interested in trying it.
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Strider (1409 D)
13 Jun 15 UTC
Classic Map
I'm wondering what type of skew games have here?
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Anon (?? D)
02 Jun 15 UTC
Help me Try a New Variant
Full Press Indians of the Great Lakes. Too many gunboat games out there for my taste.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=23333
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Jeff Kuta (998 D)
05 Jun 15 UTC
Live Classic France v Austria starting soon!
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rick.leeds (0 D)
06 Jun 15 UTC
New Dip Zine PUBLISHED
Hi, just in case you missed it, the new Dip Zine 'The Velvet Glove' is out now. You can take a look here: http://thevelvetglovecont.wix.com/the-velvet-glove
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Cult-of-Trajan (986 D)
08 Jun 15 UTC
Replacement player needed
Looks like we need a new England in a Fog of War game. Autumn 1901.
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ScubaSteve (1096 D)
05 Jun 15 UTC
Someone to take over my games
I have a personal emergengy that might make playing almost impossible.
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RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
02 Jun 15 UTC
Ding Dong, the witch is dead! Good riddance, Sepp Blatter!
Surely even Retillion cannot find a way to disagree with this news.
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renzothepro (941 D)
02 Jun 15 UTC
Battle For Colonial Empires
ANYONE PLEASE COME PLAY A QUICK AND FUN GAME ON THE COLONIAL MAP! IT HAS TONS OF THINGS TO DO.
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Marlen (1056 D)
28 May 15 UTC
Trust (a thought experiment)
I have an interesting hypothetical situation. Bonus points to whoever sees any real world parallel.
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Cult-of-Trajan (986 D)
31 May 15 UTC
Fog-of-War players needed
Need 2 more players for Grey Press Fog-of-War standard game (Hendricks)
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Anon (?? D)
02 Jun 15 UTC
To be the supreme dictator of all africa
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=23348
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Hazza4569 (981 D)
01 Jun 15 UTC
2 Player ClassicGvI
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=23343
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Hypoguy (1613 D)
31 May 15 UTC
Octopus
Anyone interested in an Octopus game?
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Hazza4569 (981 D)
31 May 15 UTC
Droidippy Game
Does anybody use the android app droidippy? Looking for 2 more players in an invitational game 23vjvz8.
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Marlen (1056 D)
21 May 15 UTC
Rules/etiquette question
Anon full press game. I think I know who another player is. Is it cheating to attack a third player with the trust I have in this person based on their moves in the current game and past reputation?
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The Ambassador (1652 D (B) (B))
28 May 15 UTC
Is this a valid set of moves?
Read on...
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gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
21 May 15 UTC
Existential question from GOD?...
So as a bit of joke, GOD asked in an unrelated thread "What is love?" It was meant to illicit a response allusive of a music lyric. I throw out the actual question with my added subtext of how do we label our personal experiences with collective titles. Am I the only person who questions whether the "emotions" or "feelings" I attaches basic collectively defined nouns to even resemble what the words "mean" to the collective humanity? So "What is love?" but also "What is human?"
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Anon (?? D)
25 May 15 UTC
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW gameID=23243
This thread is for people to confess sins safely and anonymously.

My confession is that I usually pee in the pool. Saves time, and who wants to get out to pee? The pool deck is cold.
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