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SLOTerp (0 D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
NWO goes MAD
The current NWO game being run at Redscape incorporated new experimental rules for the nukes: MAD (nuclear strikes can trigger automatic nuclear response). Spring 2005 sees 9 nukes trigger 3 nukes which begat another 3 nukes. Yikes!
http://www.redscape.com/viewforum.php?f=151
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Anon (?? D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
Please join the game!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=29548

We need quite a few people, so join up, please!
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mariscal (1582 D)
31 Dec 16 UTC
variants
is there a dip-variant as game of thrones / ringwars similar or not to the respective boardgames? maybe under another name, sorry my ignorance. if not, what tools, or site do you recommend me, to try to make a map? thxs all, happy new year
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Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
30 Dec 16 UTC
FvA Double Elim Tournament on WebDip
Since webDip *finally* got those variants ported across, I'm running a 1v1 tournament over there.

Info here if anyone is interested: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1431032
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mace (1287 D)
21 Nov 16 UTC
search for live 1 on 1
hey anybody interested in an live 1 on 1?
if so please send me a private message.

looking forward to some nice challenges
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Diplomacy Simulator
Hi! I'm new here and I don't know if it was already discussed, but it would be nice to have some sort of simulator to test out moves. Sometimes the rules aren't that easy to apply and it's hard to understand what would happen in a very tricky and unique situation...
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Flame (1073 D)
20 Dec 16 UTC
4th & 5th diplomacy rules revisions difference
Please remember me what is the differences between 4th & 5th rules revisions?
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LovelyPinkEgg (1330 D)
18 Dec 16 UTC
Europe I600 tournament
Hello, I would like to start a tournament at map Europe 1600.
Games will be anonymous and it will be message all. Or would you like to Public Press or Gunboat?
My capacity of points is low, so eveeygame will be for 2 Dpoints.
Who join?
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zurn (1178 D)
17 Dec 16 UTC
diplom.org down?
diplom.org used to be the centre of the online Diplomacy community. Even long past its prime it held tons of interesting resources, variant files, articles, etc. For the last few weeks I haven't had any luck loading the site. Does anybody have any idea what's up?

Luckily, most of it is backed up by the Wayback Machine, hopefully that never disappears: https://web.archive.org/web/20161020130534/http://www.diplom.org/
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Some of the variants don't tell you much...
Classic Cataclysm, for instance. It has a home page in Russian and our variant page says nothing. Some one want to enlighten?
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yoak (1079 D)
08 Dec 16 UTC
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Error when clicking on top-level "Games"
Error triggered: Not-paused game process-time values incorrectly set..

This was probably caused by a software bug. The details of this error have been successfully logged and will be attended to by a developer.
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kaner406 (2181 D Mod (B))
12 Dec 16 UTC
Per peeve...
Check the large map!! Espc. if your are playing gunboat!
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Unstupid (1058 D)
30 Nov 16 UTC
Long Phase Games, Anyone?
I just thought that I should start a thread for people who like long phase games - I always struggle to find some
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00matthew2000 (2409 D)
07 Dec 16 UTC
Diplomacy Supreme (WWIV Game) software bug
During the procession of moves this morning, the game experienced a software bug and about half an hour later the map came up with the phase length saying "Crashed". Apparently a mod/developer needs to look at it to fix it. Is there someone who can help us out?
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Bolt (1048 D)
05 Dec 16 UTC
3 season year
I first saw this idea on WebDip. What do you think of a 3 season variant?
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Anon (?? D)
06 Dec 16 UTC
New Fall of the American Empire gunboat- please join!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=29240
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The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
24 Nov 16 UTC
For our American friends: Happy Thanksgiving
As a matter of interest did anyone hunt their own bird or game?
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IcyPhoenix (951 D)
21 Nov 16 UTC
Help a Newbie
Hey guys! I was wondering if one of the experienced veterans has the time and patience to help me with getting better on these variants. I'm looking for a multi-day variety of two-player games and hopefully I learn how to get better.

Thanks,
IcyPhoenix
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Dr. Recommended (1660 D Mod (B))
23 Oct 16 UTC
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Diplomacy: The Next Generation
I've been teaching my 11-year old son how to play on the board game, and I've finally relented and allowed him to make an account.
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Anon (?? D)
02 Dec 16 UTC
New Imperial Dip game
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=29157
Please join.
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Anon (?? D)
29 Nov 16 UTC
Known World Gunboat
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Anon (?? D)
29 Nov 16 UTC
Africa Gunboat
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Bolt (1048 D)
27 Nov 16 UTC
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Thanks to all who have contributed towards these variants and this website
You have allowed a lot of people to have enjoyment in Diplomacy.
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DogsRule11 (866 D)
23 Nov 16 UTC
Large new game- come and play!
Are there any of you out here looking for a big, fun, crazy game? Well, here it is! http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=29042 PPSC, and I set the SC win count a little lower to encourage a solo! Please join!
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
15 Aug 16 UTC
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Lorenzo's game
With great joy I wish to announce you the birth of my first son: Lorenzo.
As well as my wife he is in good health, so I think I can spare 10 mins/day on this website for a while
:-)
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Bolt (1048 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
Election of a man who has groped women and stiffed workers to be President.
I would suggest that a large part of the reason why Clinton lost is because of her dishonesty, a strong anti-establishment backlash and a perception of personal corruption.

However, I would like us to think about what we have done in electing Trump to be President.
Bolt (1048 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC

If, in the workplace, your boss used his position of power to grope women and stiff ordinary workers (who is far less able to represent him/herself legally), I would suggest that we would not want to elect him to be President on the basis of a lack of moral character.
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
10 Nov 16 UTC
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Discussing politics on the forum isn't against the rules, but knowing how these threads go please remember - keep it civil, everyone.
tantrumizer (1557 D)
10 Nov 16 UTC
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I was enjoying the lack of American politics on this website
Samj (1801 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Must be a crossover from WebDip... they are acting brutal over there.. But not many complaints cuz they all pretty much think alike politically. I have to ignore most of them. But they make that hard, even doing it in the Global of games.
@Bolt - You make the assumption he is guilty of the groping when nothing has been thus far proven. As far as stiffing his workers, no such thing occured. The accusation is he refuses to pay contract companies who under performed or didn't do the job. I'm guilty of the same "crime". I hire you to do a job. You do it half ass and don't finish, you don't get paid.

But the real reason I didn't vote for Hillary was her stances on issues of today. I'm pro-life, I believe in the constitution and *all* of it's amendments, and I believe Obamacare is a travesty that is costing the average American worker and the small and midsize business owner and outrageous price to cover a few million who actually were covered indirectly through legal requirements that don't allow medical providers to deny service even if the person can't pay. THAT is why I didn't vote for Hillary.
Bolt (1048 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Nobody on this forum will care about what I have to say, since we're all male here, but I'm going to say it anyway, because I think that we should try to understand perspectives from genders of the opposite sex, since they make up half the population.

The groping allegations have not been proven in court (and this far down the line it is unlikely that they ever will see court) - but I don't think they should be dismissed. Women who are groped don't have the wealth to pay lawyers to represent them, when Trump is able to hire lawyers and drag proceedings out - as they have done in the past in many of his court cases.

I think you should understand that women often don't have an economic incentive to come out about these things. One of the first women to come out is 74, well into retirement. Lou Dobbs tweeted the address and phone number of one of his accusers; Trump has said he will sue them and provide evidence that this didn't occur (which he hasn't on both counts); from #NextFakeTrumpVictim you can already see that a sizeable number of people - right off the bat, without evidence - already have a negative view of them and dismiss their claims.

So what did motivate these women to come out? One reason, it appears, is a sense of injustice.

"Donald J. Trump was emphatic in the second presidential debate: Yes, he had boasted about kissing women without permission and grabbing their genitals. But he had never actually done those things, he said.

“No,” he declared under questioning on Sunday evening, “I have not.”

At that moment, sitting at home in Manhattan, Jessica Leeds, 74, felt he was lying to her face. “I wanted to punch the screen,” she said in an interview in her apartment."
[New York Times]

When you have people in positions of fame, power, wealth, who abuse their status - such as Jimmy Savile and Bill Cosby - their victims don't usually have a snowball's chance in hell of obtaining justice in the immediate aftermath of the incident.

And, call me crazy, but when Trump says, in a conversation he thought to be private:

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

I tend to believe that he's actually done some of these things in the past, and that it's not just a boast he made up.
Chumbles (1380 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
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@Bolt I agree; there should be no tolerance for this behaviour, speech in any shape or form. Indefensible. And unacceptable in an elected official.
But again, for me and for many, it was about what they would do going forward. I couldn't give a rat's ass whisker about Hillary's email server or her extremist ties vIA one of her closest aides beyond her repeating these errors and putting our country at risk, but her stated policies were abhorrent to me. Likewise, the things Trump did or said in the past (unlike HRC, he didn't have dreams of being POTUS so said stupid stuff and did stupid stuff) were nothing compared to Bill Clinton (go talk to Paula Jones or his other abuse/rape victims), but I am concerned about a volatile braggard having access to the nuclear football.
Bolt (1048 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
@YouCan'tHandleTheTruth,

I respect Trump supporters. Since he's elected President now, I hope that Trump succeeds in making America prosper, and does not marginalize groups such as the poorest and minorities.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
11 Nov 16 UTC
I would suggest that anyone tempted to post on this thread do a quick Google search to understand who Jack Palladino is and his relationship with Hillary Clinton. If you do not know who this man is, then your comments are likely to look incredibly foolish to informed readers.

And no YCHTT, Hillary repeatedly acting to subvert the Freedom of Information Act does matter, and the silence of journalist on this issue is perhaps the most shameful aspect of their performance this cycle. FOIA is at the heart of their role in our society, and their willingness to knowingly sacrifice it in service to their personal political preferences in staggering. Hillary was still actively fighting the FOIA request from 1993 over the Weddington Letter as a Senator in 2006 when it was finally released by the Bush Administration.
Well he was the first republican in a long time to go into those neighborhoods and look for votes. It's not like he received no support from minorities in this election. Democrats have been using the minority groups for years, promising the world and not following through. Every 4 yrs it's the same song and dance, hell they may as well take a chance with Trump. Most of the inner cities have been run by democratic mayors and city councils for decades as they watched these areas decline.

What was that saying about " doing the same things over and over and expecting a diff result" .
I just want to say (as a non American) Trump won because he was the best out of 2 pretty bad choices. Maybe Obama can come back next time ;)
No, he can't once a President has served 6 or more years (1.5 to 2 terms), he cannot ever hold the office again.
Chumbles (1380 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
"were nothing compared to Bill Clinton (go talk to Paula Jones or his other abuse/rape victims" I profoundly object to a) associating one individual with another's actions - why should Hilary Clinton be held responsible for her husband's actions and b) the acceptance of an accusation of rape, (made, recanted under oath, then made again) as fact is reprehensible in the extreme. It is libellous. This is the kind of smear tactics that undermine other, possibly valid statements you make. But Trump is condemned out of his own mouth.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
11 Nov 16 UTC
The sad part of this is that I have seen media coverage of DNC people floating Michelle Obama as a candidate for 2020. The bench is incredibly thin.

Michelle on the campaign trail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc0QGqzHZUo
Chumbles. The discussion was about alleged past actions making Trump an unworthy President. Bill Clinton was a far more unworthy President as he was impeached. He wasn't removed from office by the Senate but he was impeached. He also has lost his license to practice law. It has nothing to do with Hillary, only with comparing a former President to the current President elect.
Chumbles (1380 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Sorry mate, but I have a very hostile reaction to folk repeating allegations unproven in a court of law. "go talk to Paula Jones or his other abuse/rape victims" accepts that the rape allegation "(made, recanted under oath, then made again)" as fact when there is literally only the shaky on/off statements of one person and NO OTHER EVIDENCE is indefensible. If readers of your comment were to accept your libel as fact, they would go away with the impression that Clinton was a rapist. That is indefensible.
RUFFHAUS 8 (2490 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
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So, Chumbles.... It's okay to accept unproven allegations against a politician that you don't like, but abhorrent to consider about those you do? Your position on this subject is the only thing completely indefensible.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Nov 16 UTC
@Chumbles.....Paula Jones was paid by Bill Clinton so as to not have her accusations adjudicated in a court of law. Paula Jones was more or less assured of having won her case in front of a jury given that Bill Clinton had lied under oath in the case. (That is just a statement about the realities of legal proceedings: if you get caught intentionally lying under oath in a case, you are going to lose) He was disbarred for having done so.

I will repeat that you should take a look at who Jack Palladino is and his relationship with Hillary. Payments to him are publicly documented and he has made public comments that come pretty close to admitting what he was paid for. He is someone who threatens, smears and destroys your enemies when you can't counter what they are saying. A particularly vile member of the Clinton's campaign operation began making veiled public references to Mr. Palladino and Hillary's having been the one who brought him into the operation in 1992 back in the mid-1990s after having been banished from Clinton-land.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Nov 16 UTC
The burden of proof owed to Bill Clinton is actually lower. Hillary has herself publicly supported the belief that the legalistic burdens of proof we apply socially in these sorts of cases should be lower. Trump has not made such systematic statements to my knowledge. Applying to Bill and Hillary (and only Bill and Hillary) the standards of judgment that Hillary has endorsed seems perfectly reasonable to me. I reserve the right to judge you by a consistent universal standard that I fairly apply to all people or I have the option of idiosyncratically applying to you the standard of judgment that you propose for other people.
Chumbles (1380 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
"Your position on this subject is the only thing completely indefensible" My position is purely on the evidence available that Clinton is a rapist. I have no brief for the man or his wife and frankly my support if I were a US citizen would be with Bernie Sanders. And I do not adopt other people's standards "The burden of proof owed to Bill Clinton" is the same as to anyone else. If you descend to the level of 'social truth' and 'socially acceptable' you are regressing to the level of the lynch mob. I absolutely accept that Bill Clinton should not on these grounds be elected as President of the USA. But by the same token, neither should Trump. Both are detestable.
Chumbles (1380 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
But I believe everyone else has had enough of this; I have, so shall leave Trump to the rest of you.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Nov 16 UTC
Bernie Sanders was not on the ballot. Your position is a cop out.

Your second point is inane. The guillotine for Robespierre is hardly endorsement of the lynch mob in any sort of general sense. It is far closer to enforcing the dictum of Confucius.
Chumbles (1380 D)
12 Nov 16 UTC
I can cast my hypothetical vote where I please, thank you! Also, I am indebted to you for pointing out my pusillanimous inanity. I am expiring under the weight of your Robespierre, and then completely undone by your Confucious: your artful speech is the confusion of virtue.
Chumbles, in the US, when a person pays off another to settle a case, they are generally viewed as guilty. Clinton not only paid off Paula Jones, but lost his license to practice for lying under oath.

Trump has not been found guilty nor settled any of these cases out if court. Clinton us clearly the far worse offender.
Chumbles (1380 D)
13 Nov 16 UTC
Will you please read what I wrote? I objected specifically to the statement that Clinton is a rapist. Nothing else.
Clinton paid off Paula Jones to make it go away, ergo he is guilty on some level of what she accused hime, ergo he is a rapist.
http://www.albertpeia.com/oxfordassault.htm

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck...
Oh, and by the way, our objection is that you aren't giving Trump the same assumpotion of innocence you give Bill Clinton. The accusations against Clinton are far greater yet you think Trump is the one unworthy of being president. Try again. Locker room talk on old video is not admissible in court (hearsay) but cum stained dresses and lying to Congress seem to be OK in you book.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
13 Nov 16 UTC
@YCHTT.....you are wrong. Paula Jones at no point has ever accused Bill Clinton of raping her or of attempting to rape her in the legal sense. He sexually propositioned her and engaged in lewd behavior as her employer. That is not even a crime. It is at worst a tort and grounds for civil action. I am unaware of her claiming workplace retaliation after she said "Hell, no." The scandal is genuinely vicious campaign to demonize and discredit her. I am old enough to distinctly remember James Carville going on national television and calling Paula Jones "a worthless piece of trailer trash" by name. The substance of the grand jury testimony of Christopher Hitchens in the Lewinsky investigation was that in a restaurant during a Sunday morning brunch that he was fed information by a close Clinton aid that came almost certainly from Monica Lewinsky's FBI file as a White House intern and Defense Department employee and that the information that he was provided by this former DC based journalist turned political operative appeared more or less verbatim in numerous media outlets over the following days.

My best friend growing up was raised by his grandparents. His grandfather is Leon Jaworski's former legal partner. This is the kind of stuff that defined what Watergate was really all about to the man who actually was the prosecutor in charge. This is precisely why Chuck Colson went to jail.
You are, of course, correct about Paula Jones accusation. But just as many have said a rich and powerful man of Trump's influence can get out of a lot, this applies to Slick Willie as well. And honestly, also in. It case, rich and powerful men are often accused of heinous crimes by immorality people looking for a payday. It has already been shown in the upcoming case against Trump that his accuser has done this before and outright lost the case as she was lying at the behest of someone in the media.
And I remember Clinton very well. Considering Reagan was my CiC when I was in the Corps.


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Nemesis17 (1709 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Help
Haven't played in a while, looking to get back into the game but pretty much all the games are password protected. Is there a thread with protected games? Or should i just start a new game?
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November 11th
Thank you to all the men and women who served not only on the front line, but back at home as well. They all did us a great service. Let us pay respects to front line soldiers on both sides as they were just men following orders and doing what they could for their country.
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GOD (1850 D Mod (B))
17 May 16 UTC
The Flipping Generals SRG
So the idea is to set up a team gunboat with four or six players in total, two or three per team.
They play a normal team gunboat, last team alive wins.
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baky123 (1235 D)
02 Nov 16 UTC
SRG: Secret Service
First things first, this isn't actually a game yet, I was wondering about this as a special rules game and wanted to get some comments and suggestions back on it as well as work out some difficulties. Feel free to call it too complex or impractical. Rules will follow.
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