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Anon (?? D)
14 Mar 17 UTC
Live Game
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30495
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
22 Dec 16 UTC
Shift Right variant
Anybody interested to try out the shift right / shift left variant?
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LovelyPinkEgg (899 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Diplomacy Supreme
Oh, because the game crushed and all of us were defeated, only Turkey not, I suppose he won. Am I right?
LovelyPinkEgg (899 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
(+1)
I wanted to ask what happend with the game. Also ask Turkey, if he really want or what happend. And about my points, nothing changed. And I had to survive, not lose. Mods? Turkey? :)
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
10 Mar 17 UTC
(+2)
Reposting what I posted in global:

"Captainmeme (Moderator): Hi everyone,

I cannot figure out how to get this to uncrash. I tried everything I did last time, plus a bunch more, and none of it helped.

I have looked through all the orders, though, and I can confirm that Turkey would have won this phase, losing no centers and gaining the following supply centers:

Murmansk
Munich
Morocco
Lubango
Zimbabwe
Okinawa
Taiwan
Hong Kong
Guam
Nauru

This would put him on 128 SCs, giving him the solo victory.

Since this is a WTA game, that result is the same as if everyone else voted to concede to Turkey. Therefore, I am going to put up a concede vote for every other player, giving Turkey the victory here."


Unfortunately, it seems that whatever the bug was, it also stopped the game from ending properly when the concede votes were in - so it sent out messages saying everyone was defeated, but nobody actually was. I'm still working on fixing it.
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
10 Mar 17 UTC
Uhhh... It seems to be constantly trying to resolve the situation and marking everyone as defeated, then failing and trying again. This will mean your homepage will be spammed up with messages saying "<country> was defeated" over and over again.

Nothing I can do about it until the game properly crashes so I can access it again... That might take a little while.
00matthew2000 (2409 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Thank you Captain
LovelyPinkEgg (899 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
(+1)
I can't look at the global chat, because the game is crushed, so thank you for your respond Captain! Gg, well played matthew!
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
10 Mar 17 UTC
(+1)
Oli fixed the issue :) Congratulations Turkey!
00matthew2000 (2409 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Thank you very much Captain, and Oli. By the way, is 128 a Diplomacy record? I am curious
DogsRule11 (773 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Even if it's not, you now have the most vPoints of anyone in the game...
DogsRule11 (773 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
On this website, even...
00matthew2000 (2409 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
I don't understand why I got so many? It was 529 right?
00matthew2000 (2409 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Nevermind
bigrob (1586 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Thanks to this solo in WWIV, you are now the top player on this site. Congratulations on your richly deserved victory.
Mapu (2086 D (B))
11 Mar 17 UTC
Damn. 1283 D awarded for a single game. No offense to 00matthew, as entering that many moves every phase is quite a slog and obviously it was a great victory, but that seems like a bug in the formula!
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
11 Mar 17 UTC
I don't think it's a bug - it's just a side effect of the way the formula works. vRanking takes into account your rating and the rating of the other players in the game, calculates your likelihood to win, and rewards you based on how unexpected the win was. If you play 5 7-player games in a row and win all of them, your rating will be going up each time you win, meaning that you'll gain much less for the next win because your higher ranking means you're considered more likely to win. If you beat 35 players at once, however, all of them are compared to your initial rating, which means that you'll gain a huge amount.

It's not ideal, but it's really difficult to have an elo-like rating system balanced out across variants with different numbers of players, different scoring systems, and also account for draws.
bigrob (1586 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
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So, I took over United Kingdom as a replacement player,but when I lost my rating went down. Wasn't there some rule about this not happening, to make it easier to find replacement players for hopeless positions?
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
(+1)
bigrob and Mapu make excellent observations here in the aftermath of this game. Good for Matthew collecting a solo, and demonstrating the devastation that a solo victory should bring. Yet, one game should not make or break a player when compared to dozens of games or years of play. The Elo ratings system has needed an overhaul for a long time, and this game only serves to amplify that. Furthermore bigrob is penalized for his nobility here in trying to help the community by taking on a hopeless position. We need a system that identifies mercy poistions and absolves players from points penalties (and/or rewards possibly). Tracking replacement position contributions separately seems a better solution.

Some of the Dip communities that I have played in previously have awarded badges/medals/martyr points for various outcomes of games, which track seperately from strict performance. Examples are this might be loyalty (# of games played), reliability (NMR-free), mercy/other replacements, and so on. The idea here is to create incentives and rewards for players to engage in play that benefits the community.

There's probably a long list of items that need fixing whenever the site gets the administrative assistance it needs, but it would be nice if someone would keep a list of things like this for that time. If the moderator team is too overwhelmed to take this on, I would volunteer to maintain such a list.
bigrob (1586 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
To clarify, I didn't take over the United Kingdom in a hopeless position, and I was optimistic until very late I would be part of a draw in this game. But I am curious what the situation is regarding ranking points and takeovers.
RUFFHAUS, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt if you maintained such a list even if mods track it as well. Redundancy + more squeaky wheels = better chance of attention and resolution. I've come to loathe the rating system and how it has impacted the choices of good players and what games they will join, among other flaws and unintended consequences. Matthew, quit now while you're ahead, you may reign as the vDip champion for all time.
tantrumizer (1556 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
I was in a game that crashed when everyone (except me) conceded. When someone fixed the game up, after a month or so I think, the game concluded and I won, but I lost 46 vPoints, even though I was up against good opposition and probably should have gone up 80 or so...

So, it is possible there is some weirdness with scoring when games are uncrashed.
But if months had passed, randomizer, then the differential between you and your opponents at well have changed do to other games ending. It's the rating at game end that determines the change.
tantrumizer (1556 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
I'm not randomizer. :-)

Anyway, I decided to look for more info. If you look at my Hall of Fame history, I scored -46 for the win. http://www.vdiplomacy.com/hof.php?userID=6557 (game Build Anywhere Classic Boating), but if you look at the score allegedly calculated for the game, I should have gone up 102. http://www.vdiplomacy.com/hof.php?gameID=24405

I don't really think the differential differences would have come into play to that degree. Most of my solos with 7+ players earned 80+ at least and even the "little" ones keep me in the positive.

Maybe I'll get this fixed, now that I've found a discrepancy. :-)
tantrumizer (1556 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
But it does look like the numbers for the original game in question match up. Was just putting it out there.
Sorry, stupid phone auto corrected.
And yeah, a solo should never go negative. That does sound like a bug.
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
13 Mar 17 UTC
(+1)
That's... really weird. I'll see what I can do.


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13 Mar 17 UTC
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Anon (?? D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
New Fun Game For Fun People
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30468 Password is a, non-fun people are not allowed
2 replies
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Anon (?? D)
11 Mar 17 UTC
Looking for replacement player for brand new game
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30378
No moves made yet.
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Mapu (2086 D (B))
09 Feb 17 UTC
Diplomacy Historians
When Diplomacy first came out, was the classic board exactly as it is now (pretty much perfect) or did it evolve to where it is today?
6 replies
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taylor4 (941 D)
08 Mar 17 UTC
Compromised Log ons
You get any sudden, new box msgs "connection not secure" MODS: hola !
2 replies
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Kenpai (939 D X)
03 Mar 17 UTC
Cheaters
I have encountered a hacked account named HQDeevejot who is able to break games by exploiting a glitch, BEWARE
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Anon (?? D)
20 Feb 17 UTC
New WWIV game- come and play!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30278
30 replies
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Mitomon (974 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
Introduction
Hello everyone! I'm new to this site so I'd like to get to know you guys. You guys can call me Mitomon, mitomon, Mito or mito. I like chocolate ice cream and taking over the world. What about you guys?
16 replies
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Nuclear Surok (1056 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
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"Papers,Please" variant idea
I just thought,wouldnt the papers,please variant be a nice addition to vdip?The map should be something like this- http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=190964694&insideModal=1
Every country borders at least two others,but there are no neutrals.The SC names are already in(tho nirsk should just be a province).I have no idea how to program or balance stuff,so,can this even be done without copyright problems?And can this be an actual variant someday?
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The Ambassador (1614 D (B) (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
New podcast segment: Dip Dilemmas
In a semi recent podcast episode Kaner and I floated the idea of a Diplomacy Dilemmas segment where players either post via a forum thread or PM us a tricky problem/issue they're having in a game for our "sage" guidance. We'll be recording next week, so send your dilemmas through!
10 replies
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
"Per rulebook" press option
From: http://webdiplomacy.net/gamecreate.php
"Per rulebook" means no discussion during builds and retreats as per the original Diplomacy rulebook. In this mode, saved retreats and builds are automatically readied for the next turn.
11 replies
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Anon (?? D)
24 Feb 17 UTC
Awesome game. You'll live forever if you join! With colonials!
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30322
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kaner406 (1259 D Mod (B) (B))
04 Feb 17 UTC
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Any interest in a WWIV bourse game?
I'm just testing the water here, but after the current KW901 bourse game concludes (not for a while yet), I was wondering about getting a mega WWIV bourse game up and running...
41 replies
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aman2000 (703 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
World War 6
If anyone wants to play a WWIX variant (36 players) then join the game World war 6 revisited. Hope we get enough players and have a lot of fun!!
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Flame (1052 D (B))
07 Feb 17 UTC
(+6)
For all mapmakers & adapters.
Dear Sirs! I don't know what had happened to Oli, may be he got some business and got no time to cope with DiploTestLab. So I decided to start DiploTestLab2 to make our job go on...
24 replies
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21 Feb 17 UTC
EverQuest, and World of Warcraft.
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Maucat (1866 D)
20 Feb 17 UTC
To Adninistrators: please pause this game.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=29678#gamePanel
I'll be without internet connection from February 22nd to 27th due to a job journey abroad, please can you pause this game otherwise i'll be in civil disorder, thanks.
2 replies
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drano019 (2345 D)
17 Feb 17 UTC
NWO Game Replacement Recruitment
NWO game in progress is seeking a pool of interested replacement players for potential nation takeover in the event of CD. Currently, one nation is needing to be replaced. The game is about 70% complete. We would need some players who love the game of Diplomacy to fill in for a few weeks.Email zeldark@gmail.com if you're interested in being added to the pool. Thanks!
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Carebear (1000 D)
15 Feb 17 UTC
(+1)
Online Diplomacy Champhionship - Round 1 Deadline SOON
Read here: http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=797
2 replies
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nesthocker97 (1061 D)
10 Feb 17 UTC
Vacation
I need someone who manages my account for the next two weeks
2 replies
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Murcanic (1623 D)
08 Feb 17 UTC
Who is the best multi-tasker!
Hello,
I'm just wondering how many games everyone has played all at once and how many people are currently playing?
19 replies
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Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
24 Jan 17 UTC
The Online Diplomacy Championship 2017
Some of you may have participated in ODC 2015, the tournament run on webDiplomacy in which players from all sites competed for the title of Online Diplomacy Champion. It was won by webDiplomacy player Octavious.
22 replies
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The Ambassador (1614 D (B) (B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
Dip Directions?
In episode 11 of the Diplomacy Games podcast Kaner and I discussed longevity aspects and risk management of sites like vDip and webDip to ensure they grow and reduce the chances of going down (either technically speaking or perceptions of IP infringement). We said we'd create a thread for this for others to contribute. What do you reckon?
8 replies
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Nemesis17 (1161 D)
11 Nov 16 UTC
Help
Haven't played in a while, looking to get back into the game but pretty much all the games are password protected. Is there a thread with protected games? Or should i just start a new game?
6 replies
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The Ambassador (1614 D (B) (B))
15 Aug 16 UTC
(+3)
Thoughts on improving vDip
As mentioned in another thread, I thought I'd summarise here my thoughts on the idea of vDip "dying". Please feel free to add your perspectives on avoiding this to the mix.
202 replies
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Flame (1052 D (B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
For Russian-speaking players
I still want to remind that russian-speaking players are also welcomed to Diplomail.Ru webdiplomacy server.
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