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The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
15 Nov 20 UTC
Dip stuff I never knew
Creating a thread for stuff I didn’t know eg adjudication rules where us didn’t go as I hoped. I’ll start...
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Player5 (2203 D)
14 Mar 20 UTC
Variant development questions (Pits of Horror)
Hello! I'm trying to develop a new variant and would like some help debugging some things. If anyone wants to help I would be very happy!!

I have uploaded a map.png, and a mapNames.png but I still can't see anything in the "Map" interface (some error gets thrown)?
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MagicalSand (1726 D)
19 Nov 20 UTC
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idea
i suppose i could ask this here. im thinking of creating a diplomacy discord server. one of the games on it will be vDIp along with conspiracy, web dip, and diplicity. would you guys be interested in joining for the vdip section? it certainly would not be anything like a full fledged Vdip server. just something to help set up fun games and fill games like these. i just want to gauge the interest of the community first.
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The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
11 Apr 20 UTC
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Big Hitters vDip game
I'm interested in creating a new game for players with 2000+ vDip points. Password protected.

If you meet this criteria let me know here that you're interested. Once we know how many players, we can decide which variant etc.
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An issue with the interactive map
I note that in the interactive map it's not uncommon for the icon that cancels the order to hide the territory I'd like to select. I think this reduces interactive map usability especially in maps with smaller territories (Imperial Dip is a clear example). A simple solution would be to move the icon further away from the selected unit. I don't know how complicated it would be to implement this change tho.
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The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
10 Nov 20 UTC
Who will be chosen?
Read on...
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
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Is this metagaming?
Let's say that through experience of playing in the same game as someone, I have noticed that a player has been very untrustworthy and deceiving. Am I allowed to use that knowledge in another game, and remember to be cautious around that player? Or is it metagaming?

gameID=45898 <---- that is unrelated. Just want to keep this anonymous.
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aaronmx2 (1333 D)
10 Nov 20 UTC
Voteing to Concede to a Team
I'm just wondering if it would be possible for the DRAW votes and CONCEDE votes to be used together. If two people have been working together and will clearly win, right now, if everyone else wants to concede, only one of the victors can get the points. If DRAW could be used in conjunction, then the points could be split between DRAW voters. Obviously this would require good faith of those conceding to not choose DRAW.
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micahbales (1190 D)
08 Nov 20 UTC
Illegal Move Allowed in Sengoku Nagashino (V6)
Hi folks, Not sure where to take this question, but we had a player illegally retreat from Mino to 10 in this game: https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=45690

Can a moderator please look into this?
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ghostronin (2282 D)
07 Nov 20 UTC
RSS Feed for New Games?
Does the site support RSS feeds for new games? If not via the site, is there a way to do it via 3rd party?

I'm aware of the RSS feed for notices specific to myself. I like this feature. However, if I'm looking for new games I'd like to be able to apply filters and create an RSS feed for myself - for example if I was only interested in WTA games...whenever there was new posted WTA game it would go to my feed. Thoughts, workarounds?
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DeanDude (888 D)
06 Nov 20 UTC
Email notifications.
Hi I’m new here. Are there email notifications that will alert me to turns or in game messages. I’m sorry if this has been asked before I’m just trying to get a better feel of the game. Thank you
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Mittag (1396 D)
06 Nov 20 UTC
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FvA Opening Database
I was convinced that I should learn some Tableau. So I put together an opening database for FvA
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Chris McEwan (626 D)
25 Oct 20 UTC
Tees valley
Hi - anybody living in Tees Valley in the UK
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You don't want to see this map
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457218478659731465/770001163185553418/diplomap.png

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could play this map? I figured it would probably be here but can't find it in the variants. (I didn't make this but I'm a big fan of it).
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Concede
What is the point of concede?
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
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New game
Classic 1898 - Fog

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=46377
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
New game (2)
1898 with even more fog

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=46378
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
Stacked Land Provinces
A thought for you variant designers out there which I first put out elsewhere but which I feel bears repeating:
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
23 Oct 20 UTC
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Foreign Policy Magazine
Has an article featuring Dip: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/23/the-game-that-ruins-friendships-and-shapes-careers/
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JonasGarrigueMasaryk (1000 D)
19 Oct 20 UTC
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I made a big map viewer (to switch between turns easily)
I wanted a way to switch between turns while viewing the big map, so I put together this simple viewer app quickly: https://vdiplo-bigmap.netlify.app/ Hint: you can use the arrow keys to switch between turns.

I am currently playing my first game ever, so this may not make a lot of sense to the more experienced among you (which is all of you). Let me know if you find this helpful or not.
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The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
05 Aug 20 UTC
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Declaration of War game
Anyone interested in a Declaration of War game? It's meant to simulate a time of gentlemanly war...
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ScubaSteve (1234 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
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My vote (I appreciate this is not a democracy) is that a 3rd party can remain allied to two allies that are at war. Realistically speaking, this better models the real world than an all or nothing alliance. The US is allied to Israel who is technically at war with other countries that we allied with (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc.)

A country being someone's ally but being "unable" to help them is about as realpolitik as you can get.
mouse (1825 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
>That's a good point support moves can be used aggressively so: yes? You can also support move their units but only into territories they already control. At least, that's the ruling that would make sense to me.

Just to specifically complicate this, how would that impact the following situation?
I am at war with Player 2 and Player 3, who are allied with each other.
Player 3 is bouncing themselves in a Player 2 centre, to stop my nearby unit taking possession of it.
Given general positions, it benefits me for Player 2 to have a disband, even if Player 3 gets a build, so I support one of their bouncing units in.

As another hypothetical -
I am at war with both Player 2 and Player 3, who are at war with each other.
Player 2 has a centre they will likely lose to Player 3. I have a unit there, but not enough to be able to force my own possession. Due to other considerations (I am actively attacking Player 2 in other locations) I have no interest in attempting to establish a ceasefire with Player 2. However, I consider it actively in my interests to support Player 2's unit holding position as it will deny Player 3 gaining possession of the centre.Can I support hold my enemy?

Personally, I'd say "when at war there are no limits to your interactions with a party" rather than trying to limit "when at war you can only have hostile interactions with a party" would be a much easier way to go about things.
mouse (1825 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
Also, I'd be tentatively interested in joining the party if there's still room.
Macca573 (1517 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
I agree with your final conclusion mouse, unless such an agreement between players would cause otherwise.
Macca573 (1517 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
1) AKeeFaTheHun
2) berberstrijder
3) Bonatogether
4) ezpickins
5) ingebot
6) Macca573
7) Player5
8) ScubaSteve
9) Swede03
10) The Ambassador
11) ubercacher16
12) kingpin
13) mouse ?
14)
kingpin (1143 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
My only problem with the tiered system is that there's scope for it to take tactical depth out of the game. It's very common for SCs to be handed across. For example, if England wants to hand Sweden to Germany, are they obliged to announce to the entire board that that's on the table (potentially alerting Russia to the fact that a convoy to Livonia isn't happening that turn). Could both parties message the GM privately instead?
Bonatogether (1209 D)
10 Aug 20 UTC
Yeah, I agree with kingpin that not all alliances and such need to be announced. You still can (announce a defensive league to scare people off) but I would not force people to reveal every detail of their pact to everyone else.
Bonatogether (1209 D)
11 Aug 20 UTC
bump
Love where this is going folks.
ezpickins (1714 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Can we get a list of what has to be declared in public chat? Obviously declarations of war
Bonatogether (1209 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
I would add defensive pacts to that, although I'm not sure if exact terms should be revealed as well. I also think that people should be able to reveal more than is required.
Is there still a space for this
Bonatogether (1209 D)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Yep! You're welcome to join.

New list:
1) AKeeFaTheHun
2) berberstrijder
3) Bonatogether
4) ezpickins
5) ingebot
6) Macca573
7) Player5
8) ScubaSteve
9) Swede03
10) The Ambassador
11) ubercacher16
12) kingpin
13) mouse ?
14) rosaville.bain
Player5 (2203 D)
18 Aug 20 UTC
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Do we want to create separate games with different rules structures? That way we can try them out and see what we like and what we don't?
ubercacher16 (2169 D)
18 Aug 20 UTC
I like that idea @Player5
Player5 (2203 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
I created a game: gameID=45421

Read the description for the rules I compiled based off feedback from the state machine model. Good luck!
Player5 (2203 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
If people want I can create another but this one be completely private states. The rules for updating states will be the same, but you make changes "publicly recognized" by letting me know (via PM) and I will PM you with any changes to your country's relationship states?
Bonatogether (1209 D)
19 Aug 20 UTC
Joined! :D
The Ambassador (1948 D (B))
21 Aug 20 UTC
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Wow, you snooze you lose! Was busy with work stuff this week and the first game has already filled up!

Can I suggest a second game is held off just a little but to see what elements of game 1 cause any issues, so if the rule decription needs tweaking we do that then?

A super big thanks to Player5 too for pulling all this together.

BTW, in the podcast that will come out in a couple of hours I talk a little about the concept if anyone is interested.
Player5 (2203 D)
31 Aug 20 UTC
Anyone want to sub into a fairly bad board position with multiple people attacking you?
gameID=45421
GOD (1850 D Mod (B))
01 Sep 20 UTC
@Amby I'd like to be in round 2 :)
Swede03 (1517 D)
01 Sep 20 UTC
I'd also like to be in round 2.
ScubaSteve (1234 D)
01 Sep 20 UTC
I'd like to be in round 2 as well. If you hungry vultures don't steal my spot again!
Player5 (2203 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
There's always room for both! (seriously, though we'd like to have someone fill in, even if it is a bad position and there's a high chance it wont be for very long gameID=45421)

Also, you all have a different set of rules to test (e.g. private alliances) or run it back with the same set of rules to get a wider perspective, I will set up a game for that?
That'd be awesome Player5. Would be worth factoring in any lessons from the first game which created major issues. I'm in.
Halt (2077 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
I'd be interested in joining this game
ScubaSteve (1234 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
If no one else has any actual interest, I'll take Israel in the first game, but would hate for that to keep me from taking part in the second.
Player5 (2203 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
Go for it! (you're more than welcome to participate in both!)
ScubaSteve (1234 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
I would join, but I don't have the invite code handy.
Bonatogether (1209 D)
03 Sep 20 UTC
It's in the description, but here it is: "IReadTheGameDescription" without the quotes.

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Flame (1073 D)
19 Oct 20 UTC
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Cancel not Draw!
I wish in wDip engine there was not a possibility to vote draw when all the starting powers are alive. Cause multiple games are played by rookies and they do several seasons and press "vote Draw". In this case we have misunderstanding in variant statistics - tons of draws with no combat at all. If all powers left on the board -> it's not a draw! Game should be cancelled!!!
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David Hood (976 D)
17 Oct 20 UTC
Oct 2020 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjB5mUx3h2Y
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Fake Al (1747 D)
15 Mar 20 UTC
Tiglath-Pileser Development
Just to keep things organized, I'll keep my questions in my own thread, which are focused on my first try at creating a variant, one set in the Iron Age middle east.

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DaveSpermbank (1026 D)
04 Oct 20 UTC
Minimize/hide chats with players
Hello. In a big game I may have 15-20 people i communicate with. Could the vdip people add a feature where you can hide or minimize some chats?
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Rusty1428 (776 D)
10 Oct 20 UTC
Why does NMRing stop you rejoining games
I can understand why there’s a temporary ban on joining new games and making games but banning you from rejoining the game you were kicked from seems like it causes even more disruption to the game in question.

Disclaimer: I’m a bit salty about missing the deadline for a game by a few minutes because I misremembered when the timer would tick over
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
04 Oct 20 UTC
Revising Mandate of Heaven
Its all Kaner and Amby's fault.
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
30 Sep 20 UTC
Playtesters (and possibly a GM) Needed for Unconstitutional, a New Variant
See following.
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micahbales (1190 D)
07 Sep 20 UTC
Stalemate lines in Sengoku: Nagashino (V6)
Are there stalemate lines in this variant? What are they? I could not find any article on this.
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Jrodan (1387 D)
27 Sep 20 UTC
Europa Renovatio - Early Game Replacement
Hey All, looking for a replacement in an ER game that's just getting started. Currently in the Builds phase after the first year, playing as Portugal. Please DM if intereted
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