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A-Symmetric-Threat (965

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07 Jan 11 UTC

Fog of War - why are the orders visible?

After all it kinda defeats the purpose doesn't it? All it does currently is remove the graphic facility.

A-Symmetric-Threat (965 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

I think the fog of war idea is great, but it is incomplete when you can simply read the orders for location and builds.
Would it not be so much more mysterious and exciting to have to rely on other players for the information you need? Agreeing on moves would be completely dependent on the other player giving accurate information of his own and the intended enemies positions.
Each player can see his home turf plus any location adjacent to his units.

Please give consideration to blocking out the orders, or maybe delaying them for a game turn eg. printing spring moves in fall, as this would be a realistic way of representing uncertainty in the current decision making phase.

Any takers?

Jimbozig (1179 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

I think you are correct at that their visibility is probably an error.

SacredDigits (978 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

...you could always...try to not look at them?

A-Symmetric-Threat (965 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

Lol .....what if....the other guys sneak a peak??!!

basvanopheusden (1123 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

I have encountered the same problem in a FOW game. I didn't expect the orders to be visible, but wanted to check out whether it's possible to find out if a unit within your range holds, supports something or different.

I think orders of visible units should be visible, and the rest invisible. Right now we're just playing a normal gunboat.

Rusty (1255 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

Yeah woah, that's a pretty big glitch. I remember in the first few FOW games no orders were written at all, and sometimes the support arrows were ambiguous as to their intentions. I seem to recall that was then corrected to only show the orders you could see.

basvanopheusden (1123 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

Shall we set up another FOW game with the same players in the current one, after the error has been fixed?

Oli (977 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

Ouch..
This needed a custom patch for the official webdipcode to work and I forgot to apply this after the move to the new site...

Oli (977 )
07 Jan 11 UTC

Fixed...
And with the new webdip-version this patch should be in the "official" webdip code too...

A-Symmetric-Threat (965 )
08 Jan 11 UTC

Fantastic! Well done Oli, thanks for the input.

Oli (977 )
08 Jan 11 UTC

This is one of the few things that need a code-change of the main-webdip code.
Because of that kind of error I try to stick with my changes to the webdip-variant-directory. If there are too many code-changes in the webdip-code updating might become a nightmare.

Oli (977 )
08 Jan 11 UTC

If my patch is in the main-distribution I'll change the variant so you can view the orders you can see on the map too. But as long as I'm not sure how kestas will integrate this (I'm not that experienced with coding, so his solutions are so much better) I'll just block the complete history.

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Shep315 (1435

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31 Dec 10 UTC

WAR! (treaties)

This thread shall be used to post all treaties in the game War! (war declaration match)

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