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Unmuddler (876 D)
12 Apr 15 UTC
Confused
I played as the trolls (Light Green, upper-left corner of the map). Why didn't my fleet bounce the Pirates from the High Seas (Autumn, 1)?

Am I misunderstanding something?
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The Ambassador (2124 D (B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Extreme Personalities: 2015 edition
You know the drill, scroll down...
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StupidIdiot (961 D)
28 Feb 15 UTC
I'd be in but I'm new and limited to 2 games right now.
I was thinking a little about the Pamela Anderson thing and could see a difference provided it became more a Beach Babe or Snow Bunny character - they either want to own warm climates close to water OR high in the mountains to go skiing all the time (or whatever snow bunny's do). This would require such a player to play by the rules, research the map and choose appropriate locations to only target. Then that got me thinking...

The Wine Connoisseur OR Beer Baron - is only interested in conquering lands that are renown for fine wines/fantastic beers. Again, a certain amount of research is needed for this role and also not over extending it. A player could tangibly conquer pretty much any territory saying it was expanding its brewing empire (bit piss poor in my view as there's breweries everywhere now) or play it fair and square and go for places (depending on the map) like Munich, holland, Belgium, Milwaukee etc. Likewise a wine connoisseur would be targeting large amounts or France, Northern Spain, napa valley in California, barossa in Australia, Marlborough in New Zealand etc, while a piss poor player would find some obscure place that technically makes wine but is not REALLY known for it eg my home state in Australia, Queensland, has some wineries but a wine connoisseur would generally scoff at it as a place worth owning.

I guess this could be varied to be about your particular drink of choice eg if you love whiskey you'd obsessed with conquering scotland, and to a lesser extent Ireland (Irish whiskey) and Kentucky (American whiskey/bourbon etc). I think though it needs to be based around just one form of alcohol.

Just putting the character type out there (& it has nothing to do with the two lovely glasses of Malbec from Mendoza, Argentina I've just consumed!)

I thought a similar thing could be achieved with a character called the Food Snob, but this is even more subjective than alcohol in my view.

Anyway, back to the count of who's in:


Amby
G-Man
Hypoguy
YouCan'tHandleTheTruth
KingCyrus
Petyr Baelish
ccga4
Valis2501
Titus
Captainmeme
Al Swearengen
DoubleCapitals
StupidIdiot (provided he is able join the game)
Kaner406 (he's PMed and said he's in provided we start after next weekend which sounds fine to me)
rodgersd09 (987 D)
01 Mar 15 UTC
Amby
G-Man
Hypoguy
YouCan'tHandleTheTruth
KingCyrus
Petyr Baelish
ccga4
Valis2501
Titus
Captainmeme
Al Swearengen
DoubleCapitals
StupidIdiot
Kaner406

rodgersd09@gmail.com - Sounds absolutely amazing! Absolutely up for it if you will have me! :)
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
02 Mar 15 UTC
That gives us enough for KW901. Next milestone is Haven with 4 more players.

One role I think could be interesting:
The Schizophrenic - Must alternate between lying and telling the truth with every message.
@Captain - So play normal if I get Schizo. Got it. Ya never know if I'm telling the truth or not.
Bitter Lose / Ugly Winner - Spends his time ranting when he gets screwed or boasting when he manages to do better.
The Ambassador (2124 D (B))
02 Mar 15 UTC
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Love the two new suggestions!

GOD (1791 D Mod (B))
02 Mar 15 UTC
I would like to play the ugly winner/loser :-)
Hypoguy (1613 D)
02 Mar 15 UTC
What about
The Ultimate Liar: Will absolutely only tell lies. Is not allowed to communicate anything truthfull.
Captainmeme (1400 D Mod (B))
02 Mar 15 UTC
That one is already on the list:

28. The straight faced liar - nothing he ever says is true (to be honest sounds like a few players around here!)
Hey, now, I resemble that remark! Actually, the best Diplomacy players add just enough truth to their lies to be able to charm their opponents into thinking they are completely truthful every time. I wish I were that good.
G-Man (2466 D)
02 Mar 15 UTC
Great suggestions overall! Ambassador, maybe it would be easier if you just decided which Personalities remain, which are combined, and which are added?

Last time we played, I believe we ranked three personalities we wanted to play and then the Moderator worked from those rankings to sign us up for a Personality. I remember it turned out that everyone was able to get one of the three they ranked, though I'm sure we were lucky that time out. Could we do this again for this game? The Moderator could sign everyone up they can and then ask any remaining players for a ranking of three more Personalities from the remaining unused Personalities list. I think this is pretty doable under 20 and it gets everyone something they have a degree of interest in, and are prepared to work with more than just being awarded a random personality.

Also, I would request that we play a more straightforward variant. I think Haven or Pirates or Germany 1648, for example, would be a little crazy for an Extreme Personalities game.
G-Man - happy with those suggestions. Others cool with that?

I'm assuming the game master would ensure no double up of personality type?
G-Man (2466 D)
02 Mar 15 UTC
My thoughts on the new personalities:

LIKE AND THINK THEY WILL WORK

The Gentlemen
The Emissary
Grammar Nazi
Mr. Inappropriate
Shell
Wine Connoisseur OR Beer Baron (Earl of Scotch, Rum Governor...)
The Schizophrenic
Bitter Loser/Ugly Winner

COMBINE

Always Believes Non-Existant Players Are Going to Attack Him - Should be a key component of Paranoid
Mr. Zen - Could go with this name, but is ultimately The Pacifist
Miss Impulsive - Very similar to the Irrational Lover/Hater (and The Mirror)

ELIMINATE

Mr. Prissy - Already have the more developed Giver-Upper and Pacifist
The Moocher - Already have the more developed Horse Trader
Barking Mad - Might be too limited to contribute adequately
The Mirror - Already have the more refined Irrational Lover-Hater
Pamela Anderson - Similar to Pirate Pete in action, and not much going in general
Ultimate Liar - Is the Straight-Faced Liar

And I would give all the keepers relatively short names, like Pirate Pete, Military Man, The Pacifist... and not long vague ones, like 'Believes Non-Existent Players Are about To Attack Him And Others.'
KingCyrus (1258 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
Dibs on Grammar Nazi, as I created him :)
Dibs on Mr. Inappropriate. I think I could really talk a lot about squirrels and how they are taking over the world along with the geckos in my terrarium who are incredible escape artists and like to drive my dogs nuts by jumping on their heads. Speaking of the dogs, my little guys are really hating this snow. Their poor little weewees are freezing in this snow cause they are doxies and so short the snow is up to their necks.
rodgersd09 (987 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
You guys have got it wrong - I reckon Vendetta would be the one you could have the most fun with!
Ok, later tonight my time (3-4 hours away) I'll consolidate the list with the new suggestions, maybe chop some of the old ones out, update the list of players, determine the map and finalise the process for how characters will be selected.

Within the next few days I'll then create the game, send out PMs with password access to the game etc with the view to it commencing a week from today.

I thought that maybe "Shell" could be changed to "CEO" where the player can then decide based on a good storyline and a little bit of research, to target real life locations (whether they have SCs or not) for a particular resource/business activity. This could be oil like the Shell suggestion, but could be any resource based on real life resource location, eg Uranium, Gold or for that matter any hubs of business/commerce activities eg financial centres (desperate to capture NYC, London, Zurich, Tokyo, Hong Kong - couldn't care less about the rest of the map), movie making (obsessed to get LA and Bombay, other areas... What's the point?) Basically whatever your CEO is desperate to develop a monopoly of.
Ok, have filtered them and here's the suggested 32 Extreme Personalities for this game:

1. Everybody Wants to Rule the World - Wanna-rule-the-world dictator. Self explanatory, but please make it entertaining.
2. I See You - Believes non-existent players are about to attack him and others
3. Messiah - You think you're a major religious figure -Jesus/Buddha/Mohammad/your own cult etc
4. History Repeating - You think you're the megalomaniac historical figure of the country you represent - Hitler, Napoleon, insert name of relevant megalomaniac/prominent person who's run that country before. Discussion on should that person also fight like that person too? I mean it's all fine and dandy if someone's pretending to be Hitler, but if they then make an alliance with France, where's the "crazy" part you know? So Hitler would attempt form an A/I/G alliance (or attempt to) etc)
5. Entertain Me - You think you're a famous entertainer or character in a TV show/movie. You pick who it could be, past or present eg Elvis, Lady Gaga, member of the Village People(or the whole band), or a character in TV/film eg Dexter, Homer Simpson, Tyrion Lannister etc (ideally please don't select a character/real life person who is generally obscure or fringe)
6. Vendetta - Make up a reason to hate a particular country and weave it into a story. Try to get the rest of the board to help you gain your objective. Kinda goes with the fixated on a specific part of the map idea.
7. Paranoid - This person doesn't really trust anyone and will stab/protect from stabs that either don't exist, or wouldn't make sense to go through with because everyone's "out to get them".Note: previous players doing this role have on occasion been very quiet. Try to avoid this as they just seem very insular and traditionally get eliminated early with this tact.
8. Extremist group - Your crazy extremist group has grabbed control of the government. Think Westboro Baptist Church if you're a christian nation, or Al Qaeda if you're Turkey. Or it could be as silly as PETA or Greenpeace seizing a nation's leaders
9. Self-loather - The character actually hates his country/loves another country more eg he's English but wants to be French: he emulates another player, their culture etc and does everything he can to support that country. How does he deal with a stab? Who knows? That's the fun part of being crazy.
10. The F^ck Up - Grossly incompetent character who always f^cks up. Basically you'd put in your orders the way you planned, but would then have to deliberately go back and screw up one of the orders. eg

France (the f^ck up) wants to:

A Marseilles -> Spain
A Paris -> Burgandy
F Brest -> MAO

Has to (randomly?) screw up an order so F Brest->Picardy instead of moving to EC. Basically you have to choose the stupidest move possible (maybe there's a stupider move than that as you could easily pick up Belgium that way, perhaps he just holds?) Again, based on previous gameplay, players who tend to be quiet who have drawn/selected this, tend to do badly. Recommend exaggerated over-acting about WTF just happened/obviously the whole of VDip is broken etc.
11. The Bully - someone who feels he's bigger/ stronger then he really is, boasts and make more aggressive only moves. Again, play this one delicately, as no one really likes a bully… unless you’re a totally over the top bully!
12. The Pacifist - doesn't start any wars, but fights whoever hits him first (I think this could work, but its not really crazy as such)
13. Random - A person who just randomly supports others with no indications of alliances or trade offs, that will at least keep the game moving
14. Picasso - a person who would rather spend moves coloring territories their color rather than capturing SC's, obsesses over "neutral" non-SC territories, such as North Africa, Syria, Finland, Bohemia, Clyde
15. Pirate Pete - Swears all the time, builds only fleets when he can during the builds phase (no armies!) Doesn’t move to any inland SCs or territories: must stay on the coast. Tends to raid coastal SC’s and sees no issues moving on,
16. General Mayhem - Will build armies no matter what (sorry England), speaks in clipped military like tones and behaves like he’s in the army
17. Nuke Inventor - Will always try to convince his allies that he will develop nukes in the near future. He constantly keeps explaining what his scientists are doing and the physics of a nuclear weapon.
18. The Horse Trader - basically bandied together & strikes deals to swap territories with players
19. Barking mad - you take on the persona of an animal. Either you speak human language but you take everything from your chosen animal perspective or you only speak in your species' native tongue eg you bark, woof & pee everywhere the whole game. Could be interesting in diplomatic conversations
20. The Mirror - at the start of the game you behave totally rationally like normal Dip player, then the following year grab a dice or do some kind of random allocation of the other players eg https://www.random.org/integers and then act like & take on the same traits as what you BEST CAN DETERMINE that randomly selected player is. Another year rolls by, then see who you'll randomly be next turn. This way you have to do your best to imitate the style/personality you think that player has.
21. Irrational lover/hater - randomly select a player in the first year & go to war with them with full bravado (even if you're England & you just drew turkey) then the next year randomly go to war with another player while sucking up to the guy you just attacked the previous turn, making peace with rainbows and unicorns. Serious craziness if you get the same player back to back with messages swapping between love & hate
22. The Revolutionary - speaks in nothing but propaganda and rants about "liberating" the oppressed masses
23. Captain Convoy - tries organizing the most complex multi-national convoys the world has ever seen, delivering countries' armies to the furthest possible destination just because they can!
24. The Straight Faced Liar - nothing he ever says is true (to be honest sounds like a few players around here!)
25. The Gentleman – This is the kind of character that will chivalrously challenge you to a duel. Won’t attack players without officially declaring war a full turn beforehand. After all, anything else is not what a gentleman should do. Tally-ho!
26. The Emissary – I’ve seen someone actually take on this role without knowing it in a previous EP game. Basically you’re the conduit between your ruler (eg the Sultan) and other rulers. You need to represent your leader appropriately, and exhault them, but maybe sometimes you lament how they’re not taking your advice etc. You can do a fair amount with this character.
27. The Grammar Nazi - Always corrects people's grammar, and only attacks rule breakers.
28. Mr. Inappropriate - Has trouble keeping a straight line of thought without falling off tangent into something that is inappropriate or whacky and far removed from whatever was originally being discussed. I.e., this does not have to be vulgar, crude, or sexual (and if it is, shouldn't be so offensive as to really piss people off or make them feel like throwing up).
29. Another Drink Bartender! - is only interested in conquering lands that are renown for fine wines/fantastic beers/choose your favourite spirit. A certain amount of research is needed for this role and also not over extending it. A player could tangibly conquer pretty much any territory saying it was expanding its brewing empire (bit piss poor in my view as there's breweries everywhere now) or play it fair and square and go for places (depending on the map) like Munich, holland, Belgium, Milwaukee etc. Likewise a wine connoisseur would be targeting large amounts or France, Northern Spain, napa valley in California, barossa in Australia, Marlborough in New Zealand etc, while a piss poor player would find some obscure place that technically makes wine but is not REALLY known for it eg my home state in Australia, Queensland, has some wineries but a wine connoisseur would generally scoff at it as a place worth owning.
30. The CEO - The player is the head of a global corporation interested in becoming a monopoly in its chosen field - choose a good storyline and throw in a little to target real life locations (whether they have SCs or not) for a particular resource/business activity. This could be oil like the Shell suggestion, but could be any resource based on real life resource location, eg Uranium, Gold or for that matter any hubs of business/commerce activities eg financial centres (desperate to capture NYC, London, Zurich, Tokyo, Hong Kong - couldn't care less about the rest of the map), movie making (obsessed to get LA and Bombay, other areas... What's the point?) Basically whatever your CEO is desperate to develop a monopoly of.
31. The Schizophrenic - Must alternate between lying and telling the truth with every message.
32. Bitter Lose / Ugly Winner - Spends his time ranting when he gets screwed or boasting when he manages to do better.

As we've got a number of players and no-one wants to be disappointed that you nominate your preferred order of FIVE Extreme Personalities to Battalion who will GM the start of the game. He will evaluate everyone's preferences and let you know what character you will be playing. Please hold off on PMing Battalion though until the game is created.

Current player list is:
Amby
G-Man
Hypoguy
YouCan'tHandleTheTruth
KingCyrus
Petyr Baelish
ccga4
Valis2501
Titus
Captainmeme
Al Swearengen
DoubleCapitals
StupidIdiot
Kaner406

That's 14 and could play Gobble Earth. Its countries are based on the start of WW1 so might be easier to base a character on.

Alternatively our last person to put up their hand (rodgersd09@gmail.com) could be included and we can do Known World 901.

My personal preference is Gobble Earth as Known World has rather obscure countries (old empires in central Asia and Africa.) But I'll put it out there for players to have their say (48 hours to post here your preference - most votes decides).


Petyr Baelish (900 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
I vote Gobble Earth
DoubleCapitals (736 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
^
G-Man (2466 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
Nice Ambassador. Thanks for doing the work. I'm not crazy about the waived builds in Gobble Earth, but I can live with it for an EP game. The older powers on Known World 901 don't bother me and I do like being able to build in any home center. But I'm okay with either map.
Hypoguy (1613 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
Great work on the list of extreme personalities, Ambassador!
Both maps are fine with me.
I take it we agreed on a zero point unrated 2-day phase game?
Thanks guys, gobble taking an early lead.

Btw I'm thinking if we play gobble than rodgersd09 would be first reserve (ie if someone isn't able to play as expected, etc)

And yes hypoguy, 0 D, unrated, 2 day phases.
KingCyrus (1258 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
Known World.
StupidIdiot (961 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
I also prefer Known World.
rodgersd09 (987 D)
03 Mar 15 UTC
Obviously if I get a vote then it's known world ;)
I think hypoguy would prefer known world and probably only got behind gobble due to its early votes (am I right?)

If so known world is in the lead by 1 currently.
I'm good with whichever map, but it could be difficult to do the megalomaniacal historical ruler of some obscure country.
kaner406 (2061 D Mod (B))
04 Mar 15 UTC
Known World

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Menkara (1065 D)
02 Apr 15 UTC
"Draw" games?
How to end a game in a multi-player draw? Is it possible on this site? If so, where is it documented. Is there a way to grant "proxy" to another player for any period of time? Where would that be documented? Is that enough questions for one post?
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
28 Mar 15 UTC
Webdiplomacy.it
What happened??
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ghug (1012 D)
23 Mar 15 UTC
Online Diplomacy Championship
A lot of you are active on webDip too, so apologies for making you read this twice, but we're trying to get a tournament with players from all around the internet started, and I'd love for any of you that aren't on/don't check webDip (and all of you who are as well) to join. More inside.
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
01 Apr 15 UTC
Hey, Butterhead
So Texas is seemingly looking hard only at Shaka Smart. Gregg Marshall from Wichita State is seemingly not being looked at in the same way. For all of the hoopla over the Final Four run, do you have any insight as to why Shaka Smart has never won a conference title in either the Colonial or a gutted Atlantic 10?
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EFTBSTHGK1337 (943 D X)
27 Mar 15 UTC
I live!
Thanks to Mr Oli!
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Maucat (1834 D)
27 Mar 15 UTC
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Maps of IMperial Diplomacy II disappear
The site is unable to charge the maps of Imperial Diplomacy II so it's impossible see anything of what happened in those games.
Can someone resolve the problem?
Thanks.
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EFTBSTHGK1337 (943 D X)
27 Mar 15 UTC
Classic
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=22748
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Anon (?? D)
18 Mar 15 UTC
World War IV - Five players needed!
gameID=22270
World War IV Public Press PPSC
Five players needed to replace players who have left - game hasn't started yet.
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Al Swearengen (1000 D)
07 Mar 15 UTC
Radio Free Webdiplomacy
Thank you for tuning in, Friends.
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Tyran (1399 D)
17 Mar 15 UTC
Welcome me back with a good game.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=22648
Been a long time since I played on vdip. I have a game under my belt recently but I'm hoping I can get a good one together to welcome me back.
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Mapu (2086 D (B))
11 Mar 15 UTC
Fellow WWIV experts and other Dip Players
You should do well at this. I got 16 out of 18 and would have gotten about 3 out of 18 if I'd never played Diplomacy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/the-hardest-name-that-country-quiz-youll-take-today#.arM1nb0z5e
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Anon (?? D)
05 Mar 15 UTC
Play Me - I Need to Avoid Working
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=22486
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nschaumann (951 D)
05 Mar 15 UTC
Help!
How do I create a private game?
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Anon (?? D)
04 Mar 15 UTC
Fog game
Hey guys. Looking for people to join my new fog of war game. Just wanting to see how to variant plays out, casual game.

http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=22466
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Teams Torunament (2v2 or 2v2v2)
This would require special adjudication in the end game, I guess, but the idea sounds interesting. Anyone else interested. Please don't come in spouting how it isn't real diplomacy. Some of us don't care. We just want to have fun playing a game that uses the fundamental rules set of Diplomacy.
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Fivest (816 D)
01 Mar 15 UTC
Close account
Please, i need to close this account, can you handle with that? Thanks
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Nescio (1162 D)
11 Feb 15 UTC
Corrected Diplomacy 1900 variant
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54160351/Diplomacy/Diplomacy1900.pdf

Feel free to comment; feedback is appreciated :)
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KingCyrus (1258 D)
27 Feb 15 UTC
Lab Down?
Is the lab down for everyone else too?
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mnmnmnmnmnmn0 (955 D)
23 Feb 15 UTC
WWIV Game
Does anybody want to start a WWIV game?
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orangechicken (1026 D)
23 Feb 15 UTC
I want my 20 phases
What's the definition of a phase, and how do I know how many I've actually completed?
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mfarb (1338 D)
17 Feb 15 UTC
NEW WWIV MAP
do any of these new map concepts interest anyone?
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Valis2501 (985 D)
10 Feb 15 UTC
House Game in Cambridge, MA, US
Starting 1 pm on Sat 2/14.
PM me if interested.

Also looking to get regular weekly/monthly games going so contact me even if you can't make it this Saturday.
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Nescio (1162 D)
13 Feb 15 UTC
"Original Diplomacy"
Is the Original Diplomacy, the first version, Diplomacy (1958) als playable on this site?

http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/o/original.htm
http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/o/original.gif
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
27 Jan 15 UTC
Variants In Development (Spice Islands and East Indies)
This is a followup to a couple of threads back in 2013 (http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=47279 and http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=47686 )
Due to sizing limitations, the substantive content of this message will appear as a response.

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Anon (?? D)
14 Feb 15 UTC
One more needed for Pure Gunboat!
gameID=22169

PM me for PW!
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kaner406 (2061 D Mod (B))
27 Jan 15 UTC
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20 Questions - forum game
I'm thinking of an object. You only have 20 questions to guess what that object is. *IMPORTANT* - put the number your question next to the question. The person who guesses correct answer gets to be the next '20 question master'.
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headward7 (981 D)
11 Feb 15 UTC
Non-diplomacy semi-adverts allowed in this forum?
Hi all, is it permitted to shamelessly use this site to recruit player-testers for ulterior non-diplomatic purposes?

If not, please close your eyes before clicking "open" :-)
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Nievski (841 D)
09 Feb 15 UTC
Money Variant?
In this website there is economic variant with money with which to maintain the armies and bribes to other players?
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