@Oli the news integrated into the game overview are cool, but I would prefer them to be above the game, not below. So that you always know what happened lately.

Is 1 notice ok. Or better the last 2?
IMHO this would ne nice right under the game-header and above the gamestatus and playerstats.

Oli: It's just that the "Refresh" button is so big on the new mobile website. I'm afraid people could accidentally hit it.

1 Notice is enough for me!

I don't see any notifications at all any more on the main website, and all of my PMs are weeks old.

Confirmed with tantrumiser; not seeing any actual notices, just irrelevantly old PMs.

They are in the games section now :)
"IMHO this would ne nice right under the game-header and above the gamestatus and playerstats"...sounds great!!!

...having them in the games section really doesn't help; since that's sorted by 'stuff that's coming up soon', not 'stuff that just occurred'.

Entirely defeats the purpose of having such notifications visible on the home page.

Yeah that bothers me as well. How about having game notifications at the top not for unreadied games, but for games where a new phase has been progressed?

Oh I see them now. Yes, that's not useful for me. I am appreciating the experimentation though, but the top thing for me is to see the notifications since I last logged in at a glance.

Ya, I personally like the game notifications separate. A little easier to see what happens, esp when you are playing multiple games/tournaments. PMs from months ago aren't really relevant to be front and center. No biggie either way, though. I am good as is.

Why not filter PMs to show only the last N days where N is either the last time the person logged in or 2 days, whichever is greater. Do the same with game notifications but put them *first*, ahead of PMs.

Okay, here's my thought on the notifications being moved:

A game of mine just ended. I won, but did not see any notifications about this. I would (personally) prefer to see when a game of which I am a part ends, so that I have a cause to associate with my change in vPoints.

But the cutting down on the general message overload sure is nice. :)

That's a very good point. You won't see the win notification because the game is no longer active. That is a real show stopper there.

Right. Nice idea, but not really useful.
I will move them back to the notifications and change to last 2 days/last login,

If it was the old forum column, I'd have replied here :)
I only read the thread title - I didn't have a clue on trending threads because of the fixed number of msgs shown -
> --> Forum column: I believe the issue for change was raised when the Mafia game
> dominated the forum. Now that it doesn't anymore, it makes more sense returning
> to the old fashioned forum column... it gave us visual information on trending
> topics.

Just to note, the 'force desktop site' option in the settings menu does not remotely resemble the option in browser settings, at least in Chrome, to the point of being even less usable than the mobile version.

If you select "force desktop" it will not load the "mobile" code at all. It's just like it was before. You just get the "old" site without the special "mobile"-CSS.

I expect the mobile version as a powerful tool to bring in new players. Most folks who refuse vDip and go for apps or Backstabbr argue that the lack of mobile-friendly visuals was critical.

@Oli, any hope we can push towards the final frontier - push notifications?

Oli - what I was saying is that what is displayed is materially different between the "Always use desktop-version (even on mobile):" site setting, and the "Request desktop site" option available in browser.

Not sure why, but when using the on-site option, the forum/notices/games columns do not remotely sync up with the 'highlighted' background width, while the top links and non-readied game buttons are forced to a new line at about the halfway point of the 'notices' column (incidentally splitting "New Game" between lines).

It's definitely quite distinct from the in-browser option, which accurately presents the site in the same manner as on desktop.

I don't think that what I'm seeing is as bad as what mouse sees, but I also noticed that the desktop website seems different now on my phone. I can't say for certain since the browser setting doesn't work on vDip for me so I have nothing to compare. When I use the desktop version of the website on my phone now, for example, the "Home", "Forum" and "Games" hyperlinks at the top of the page are mostly covered by the "vDiplomacy" logo; I don't remember that happening before the mobile website was introduced.

Oli: There was a 'please accept cookies' banner at the bottom of every page i visited which was ruining the page width on my iphone. Other than that great work :)

@mouse, not sure i understood your last comment; maybe emailed screen shots to Oli would help

Loved the new icons in game page (Bigger screen, preview, etc).

I'm enjoying the larger buttons on the game pages in the computer version- I don't think I'll ever click the wrong thing again!

Nice. Thank you.

Thanks Oli for spoiling us again!

Oli: I've been using the mobile website. I think it would make sense to move the army/fleet icons in the drop-down order interface to the first line in each order. Right now they are centered and it's pretty difficult to follow where the orders for one unit end and the orders for the next unit begin.

I think it's not easy to move the unit-icon on mobile. But I might alternate the background-color for each order. This way it should be easier to keep the orders apart.