Finished: 02 AM Wed 11 Nov 20 UTC
Private Panthersprung
1 day /phase
Unrated - Autumn, 1915, Finished
1908 - Fall of Europe, Unranked, EoG: 18 SCs or "Autumn, 1917", ChooseYourCountry
1 excused NMR / regain after 5 turn(s) / extend always
This is a moderated game. Gamedirector: Enriador (1507 D) (is playing too).
Playtest #2 for 1908.

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02 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: GameMaster: Please remember that negotiations before the game begins are not allowed.
03 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Welcome all! Glad to have you back for another round. =)

The game has the same settings as the first playtest and only one change for now: Italy lost its mostly useless second army and now has a second fleet in the west coast of Rome.
03 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Everyone got either their first or second pick, with three players going fully random. Looking forward to another great game!
03 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Swede03): I like both the references to the Morocco crisis, but wasn't that in 1911, not 1908?
03 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Good catch! Indeed, the crisis was in 1911.

The references are more of a poetic license - '1908' aims to capture the overall feeling of early 20th century diplomacy, marked by several disputes - most notably in 1905, 1908, 1911, 1912 etc. The variant could start in any of those years and still have the same theme.
03 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Swede03): Yeah, that's true.
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Bonatogether): I dislike the second fleet because it eliminates the Bohemian Crusher opening, although it might open up some more openings I haven't thought of yet.
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Losing the Bohemian Crusher is a downside for me too. On the other hand it opens up stronger variations of the Caesar and Key Lepanto, as Italy now can grab a build and slide into GOL/AEG as desired.

Italy was also supposed to be the Mediterranean's early boss and with just one fleet Britain & France could effortlessly bully themselves into bouncing Italy in both Tripolitania and Tunisia. Now it should be more even.

Besides, even with a second army, I suspect Italian interests will be steered more towards France/Britain/Turkey than Austria, at least early on.

If Italy takes Switzerland in 1908 and one more center out of Tun/Trp/Gre, it could build:

* Army Milan
* Fleet Rome (ec)

In 1909 you got a Tyrolean Crusher (three units on Trieste, mimicking Classic's analogue):

A Swi-Tyr
A Mil-Ven
F Rom (ec)-ADR
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Just an idea, of course. I think that area is the hardest to balance right now.
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (D-Mish): I can see it makes the French push for Tunis much less likely, but I like the knock-on effects. If A Casablanca moves to take Iberia, Marseilles and Paris can get involved with Belgium immediately.
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (CYFI): I think the fleet is good as it allows for Italy to be a little more powerful.
04 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: (Enriador): Just waiting on our Italian player to join us and we are set!

I will be playing along with you this time, and will try to avoid bothering you with questions every other season. =D
05 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: Info: This is a choose your country game.
05 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: Apologies for the wait everyone. I took time off without looking at my pms. Sorry I didn't look beforehand.
05 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: As in our last game I have extended the first phase by 24h to give everyone time to talk.

Remember to report any weirdness you see, or any thought on balance. Enjoy the game!
05 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: The interactive map for Edinburgh has the same issue as Warsaw did.
06 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1908: Gotta take a look. Thanks again Bonatogether!
08 Oct 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Could we possibly extend a phase while I may not have the opportunity to move this weekend?
08 Oct 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: GameMaster: Russia voted for a Extend. If 2/3 of the active players vote Extend the the current phase will be extend by 4 days. Please consider backing this. If the majority is not reached by "Autumn, 1909" the votes will be cleared.
08 Oct 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Of course!

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