Finished: 02 AM Wed 07 Apr 21 UTC
Blood for Luxury
1 day /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1921, Finished
Classic - Economic, No messaging, Anon, PPSC
1 excused NMR / regain after 5 turn(s) / extend always
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19 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1914: GameMaster: Russia voted for a Draw. If everyone votes Draw the game will end and the points are split equally among all the surviving players, regardless of how many supply centers each player has.
24 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1916: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
24 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1916: GameMaster: Austria voted for a Draw. If everyone votes Draw the game will end and the points are split equally among all the surviving players, regardless of how many supply centers each player has.
26 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1916: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
26 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1916: GameMaster: Someone has taken over Russia replacing "frostwind". Reconsider your alliances.
31 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1919: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
31 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1919: GameMaster: Someone has taken over Russia replacing "LovelyPinkEgg". Reconsider your alliances.
06 Apr 21 UTC Dang, I had meant to tap Brest there.

GG everyone, but some special kudos to France and Austria. France, those were some ballsy ballsy moves there at the end. And Austria, that suicide fleet earlier in Ionian quite frankly probably saved the game. I hated you for it, but respected the play.
06 Apr 21 UTC But not good enough to keep me in the Draw, right?

I just want to ask German : what were you thinking when you attacked me in Economy Board and give Italy path to expansion?
06 Apr 21 UTC Great game folks!

A shout out to original-Russia, who probably will never read this: we had our issues and could never get on the same page on the Economy board, but great job working together on the main board!

When the first replacement Russia took over (LovelyPinkEgg), I thought he was going to ruin everything. It looked like France would be able to stop Italy just before the solo and long as Russia didn't sabotage him... and Russia sabotaged him. And also attacked me. I wasn't sure if he didn't realize it only took 24 SCs to solo, or was trying to solo himself, or was just plain dumb. I was getting pretty upset that he was throwing the game to Italy, when we otherwise would've been able to stop him.

It was at this point that I realized the game was PPSC, not WTA. Which is also right around when 3rd Russia (Josafina) took over. I'd decided "well if Russia is going to hand Italy the solo, I might as well get as many SCs as I can before he does"... which is why I booted Russia from the Economy map and took Sevastopol. A couple turns later, I realized that new Russia was doing exactly the right moves to stop Italy, and perhaps I'd ruined it by forcing him to defend against me too. I still thought there was very little chance of actually stopping Italy, but some smart thinking and a little luck, and you pulled it off! Excellent work!

Disclaimer: the reason I kept going for Albania even after we'd "made peace" was because getting another fleet in Alb (rather than an army) would've forced Italy into using a 4th fleet to defend Ionian. There was a short window where he only had 3 fleets nearby and I could've broken through if you'd vacated Albania promptly. But I also understand why you didn't...
06 Apr 21 UTC Gg all, even though I burnt out pretty early. The prisoner’s dilemma France and I had going at the start stopped our economies from ever really leaving the ground, which for sure gave the Italians some easy markets to roll into.
06 Apr 21 UTC One more thing to add: you could've easily had the last 2 blue centers on the economy board, but I'm glad you never saw it! All those turns where he had Tea/Barley and you had Cheese/Wool, and he was ordering Tea-Wool and Barley-Cheese, you just needed to order Wool-Ships, Cheese-Tea, and Wine-Cheese. This should've worked in A1915, but you could've made it work anytime you had an army passing through Wine or Wood. France had telegraphed his moves and was repeating them every time...
06 Apr 21 UTC Oh look at that, I could've won on the economy board, you're right. Well that's a damn shame.

I knew why you were going for Albania though, Turkey. Very glad Russia didn't pick up on it. I don't think 2nd Russia was going to throw the game though - I think they were trying to solo. They had the English centers locked down. Sure they stabbed you early, but had they taken all the French centers and denied them to me, they would have solo'd.

Now was it a smart decision? No. But it was a hypothetically possible one that PPSC encourages you to take.
06 Apr 21 UTC I don't think Russia was that close to a solo ever. Even at his zenith (A1917), he was at 18, still needing 6. Belgium + England still puts him 2 short, plus his 2 on the economy board were precarious and required a correct 50-50 guess every single turn.
06 Apr 21 UTC He was close enough before you took his economy centers that it crossed my mind. But once you took them, the door slammed shut on that. I'm not sure you would've immediately reacted to take them had he not stabbed for Serbia, even if he was working towards Brest.
06 Apr 21 UTC @xildur. I think that was Autumn 1907 you mean. I can’t say I played the economy board well - first time with this variant. But from memory I was under constant attack from France England, Russia was eating into Italy in the main board and it was pure survival. I saw the Italy problem early (my move to tyrolia just as you suicide fleet went to Adriatic, I retreated to let you have Venice so we didn’t bounce). But then France attacked again (despite English all over him). So I retreated and was basically flailing at that point. One of those games I never found an ally and frankly was rooting for an Italy solo by the end. (Was pretty sure some players hadn’t checked the win conditions too)
06 Apr 21 UTC No you’re wrong Jacob/Turckey, in the scoreboard I had 3 centers but I couldn’t lose more than one (as then happened), whatever move Italy had made.
06 Apr 21 UTC Nice game for me too. Maybe if Italy had moved a round later it would have taken me more unbalanced, or maybe not.. anyway I had fun!
06 Apr 21 UTC France: if Italy had moved as I suggested, you would’ve ended up with your armies in Barley and Wool while he had armies in Tea, Ships, and Cheese. He then could’ve used Tea and Ships to destroy your army in Wool, then he could take his time dealing with your lone remaining army
06 Apr 21 UTC @Grahamso : Yes at Autumn 1907. I was trying to let you grow West while I go East, but clearly not happened.

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