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Hollywood (1423

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05 Jan 13 UTC

Sorry another support move question

If I have three units and an opponent also has three units, and I assume he is going to support move next turn to one of my SCs, but I'm not sure which one, would I be covered if I just attack all 3 of his units? That way none of his support moves could work, right?

fasces349 (1007 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

That would depend on where the attack/supports are coming from.

The defending unit can't cut the support on its own territory.

So if you have units in territory A and B, your opponent has them in territory C and D, if C attacks A supported by D, A attacks D and B attacks C. Then A is dislodged since the support wasn't cut.

Conversely if B attacks D, since that cuts the support all units bounce.

Same logic applies for 3 units (though I used 2 in the example since its easier to describe).

The exact details would have to be known to know 100% whether or not your plan can work.

Can you describe it using the classic map (ie have units in silesia, bohemia and munich and my enemy has units in...). You could probably find the same layout (in terms of territory borders) on the classic without ruining the anonymity of the game you are in.

Hollywood (1423 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

Ok, say I have units in Ionian Sea, Greece and Serbia, and the opponent is in Aegan Sea, Albania, Trieste

Hollywood (1423 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

And I'm assuming he isn't moving Ionian sea because he could convoy another army

equator (1514 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

In general no, Hollywood. If you'r talking about the classic variant, you have Ionian, Greece an Serbia, right? adn he has Aegean, Albania and Trieste but he won't attack Ionian?

equator (1514 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

Serbia is an army and Ionian and Aegean are fleets, right? what about the others?, let's assume that they all 3 are armies.

In that case it would be a very bad idea if he attempts to convoy a unit into Greece, cos only could support with Albania. Then what he'll do is to use Trieste to support Albania-Serbia and he will attack Greece to brake any possible support. Then he wins and takes Serbia.

equator (1514 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

Now, in a more conventional situation, let's say you have Vie, Buda and Rumania and he has Boh, Galicia and Ukraine. Then the worst thing you can do is to attack all 3 of his units cos he will win.

Why? cos as fasces said, the defending unit can't cut the support on it's own territory.

So Buda is attacking Galicia, but Galicia is moving somewhere, supported by another unit, then Buda would porbably end up in Galicia. Say Galicia is moving to Rumania, supported by Ukraine, then Rumania can't break Rumania's support, cos it cannot break support on its own territory.

Hollywood (1423 )
05 Jan 13 UTC

Yes there's just the 2 fleets in aegan and in ionian

Now, if I'm using Greece to attack Albania, and using Serbia to attack Trieste, and aegan to attack Ionian, wouldn't that cut support on any support move he'd make? Unless he were to move Ionian to Greece but again I'm assuming that he wouldn't

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Decima Legio (1987

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31 Dec 12 UTC

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