Is this like the tv show?

yep spartan, two tribes, but due to map constraints each tribe may be further divided into two

I forgot about that tv show - a few years ago it must be ...
Mind giving some details?

Based on the tv show, I would assume there are two tribes on a given map. The tribes compete in challenges and the losers have to vote someone out (aka eliminate them?) eventually you get to the "merge" and it's every man for himself until the final three where the players who were voted out vote for the victor.

I'd consider it if it was anonymous so it wouldn't be a popularity contest -- sounds kind of fun.

Anon would be good but I would like it if phases were at least 2 days!

Sounds cool

Yes please let me join this!!!!!!!!!!!!! Survivor is my favorite show, haven't missed an episode since I began watching. :D

Guys just keep in mind, this is my speculation, it's actually Jack's idea so let's see his thoughts!

ccga, you would get along well with BRICH94... he's a huge survivor geek too :P

All this time I've been friends with BRICH and I didn't know he liked survivor. Wow.

spartan is right :) depending on number of players which sign up, i will use different maps. probably each team will have to eliminate a member of the opposing team to win the team challenge. When the tribes merge, will probably have a free for all using the standard diplomacy map

List of players so far
1.ccg4
2.Spartan(maybe?)
3.Mapu (maybe?)
4.Grand Admiral Thawn (maybe)

I think anon will be a good idea, as for phase length i may put 1day 12 hrs if thats ok

I am interested. And yes, I'm a pretty big survivor geek as well :P

Yes I am interested. So is this going to be a series of maps? Where each map is a challenge? If so, I think it would be extremely entertaining for there to be different goals depending on the map. So on one map you could have eliminate a member of the opposite team, on the another map you could have the winning team must control specific centers or territories, etc.

so something like the king is dead and saboteur as well then? i will consider that

How would you quantify someone's skills in game? I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. you can't take into account a big part of this game....looks :D

No?....Too soon?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/577ac04770/too-soon-gilbert-gottfried

@sandgoose you could make alliances within your team like in the survivor series. The games will all be anon-ed so people in the same team (which will be notified before hand) can cut deals, probably based on the team mates playing style. I foresee people getting voted out either due to poor skills or the threat they will pose in the late game. Like the TV series, there will be a panel of judges for the final 3 (so that 2 people dont just gang up on one person)

How about we stop playing group hug games, and play every game like survivor (i.e. to win)? If we did that, then you wouldn't have to have a specific tournament to get that experience.

Ruffhaus it seems sometimes that any draw when a long standing group of allies, ie western triple who has defeated all opponents and they don't want to fight among themselves, is offensive to you.

Well, yes, the scenario you just described is offensive to me. The objective of the game is to win, not to draw with two friends. Contrary to popular belief I am not a big stabber, and I struggle myself with betrayal, particularly of a game long ally. At the same time, anyone who doesn't even explore the opportunity to win, and enters a game with an objective of taking a western triple to a three player draw is pretty much cheating. So, yes, that's offensive.

I guess as usual you've missed the point, which was a rather simple one. Maybe your Game of Thrones character can be Ser Dontas.

Diplomacy is a game designed to be won by one person, and there are no points awarded for second place. Understanding this concept is what makes Diplomacy such a great game, and coincidentally what made Survivor a phenomenon. As they say in Highlander, "There can be only one." While draws are a reality of the game, they happen too frequently around here, with far too many players in them, which is probably why so many folks think a survivor tournament would be a great idea. What is the point of playing a game if you're not trying to win? That's like the Massachusetts soccer leagues that don't keep score of the games so no one's feelings are hurt.

Now if you made a survivor tournament of solo-only games, then you're capturing the essence of Diplomacy inside a Diplomacy tournament.

So are you in or out or are you just going to opine about the good old days of Diplomacy and soccer?

I'll join

I'm interested as well; I'd like to hear more details (how many maps? how many people advance each round etc), but it's an interesting idea.

I've always wondered how an experienced dip player would do on Survivor - some of the same skills involved, but the jury vote at the end makes a big difference. It sounds like in this tourney it'll be similar but not quite the same...

RUFF, I understand your position on draws and that the game is meant to be played to a solo. I agree, in that sense, this tournament is trying to embody the spirit of a solo winner (or Survivor).

However, I think the purpose of the tournament is meant to encompass all aspects (except the wilderness part...) of the Survivor tv show. Such as being on pre-determined tribes and competing in tribal immunity challenges on different maps. It adds significantly more than just the idea that you have to be the lone winner. It makes it more interesting and worth while of a tournament :D

I would like to try it.

List of players so far
1.ccg4
2.Spartan
3.Mapu (maybe?)
4.Grand Admiral Thawn (maybe)
5.B-Rich 94
6.Sandgoose
7.Ruffhaus
8.Champ11228
9.rexgarum
10.bozo

@rexgarum my idea is a map big enough for both teams to face off, each trying to eliminate one member of the opposing team. So the map must be big enough to fit all members of both tribes. I will probably cap the number of participants at 14. Maps will include Gobble Earth, Imperial diplomacy II, Classic Crowded, Colonial 1885, Indians of the Great Lake, Viking Diplomacy or Africa, Classic - 7 Islands, Greek Diplomacy or American Conflict,The Ancient Mediterranean or The Dutch Revolt and lastly a Rat Wars or South America (Four people variation)

one person from the losing tribe will be eliminated after each map based on votes within the losing tribes. the two tribes will merge when there is a final 7 (this creates an additional strategic part of the game as one tribe will definitely outnumber the other). In case of an overwhelming majority, ie one tribe has 6 while the other tribe has 4, the tribe with the majority will have to vote to offload one member to the other team