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MerlijnvL (941 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
Hallo
Hallo
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didigoose (1532 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
Hof Points Question
I have 2 questions related to the Hof point calculation

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zurn (1178 D)
28 Mar 17 UTC
Minor map issues
Is anybody able to make minor cosmetic map changes to the variants, for readability? There's two small things I've noticed:

* Imperial Diplomacy II: there's a connection between Morocco and W. Med, but the map really doesn't show it.
* First Crusade: The Sardinia supply centre in the large map is placed in an odd, almost invisible spot.
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Oztra (892 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
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WebDip members on here
Hi Guys,
just wondering how many people that are from webdip come over here and do stuffs
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Matticus13 (1300 D)
22 Mar 17 UTC
36 hour GB, Classic map
Classic/Gunboat/36 hour/Anon/Bet: 25. One or two games. List your preference and add your name to sign up. RR +90 preferred. I will create the game(s) and PM password when full. FITE ME ;)
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Anon (?? D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
Looking for a replacement player
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30436
Fall of year 1, still solid position to play France here.
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
19 Oct 16 UTC
V-dip players Map
http://goo.gl/maps/EPgiV
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nopunin10did (1041 D)
14 Mar 17 UTC
Where is the draw button?
I'm in a "friends" game of Imperial (http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=28912), and I can't for the life of me find any button to either propose a draw or vote on one.
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DogsRule11 (773 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
Anyone up to hone their skills in Imperial II?
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30374
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Anon (?? D)
14 Mar 17 UTC
Live Game
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30495
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
22 Dec 16 UTC
Shift Right variant
Anybody interested to try out the shift right / shift left variant?
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LovelyPinkEgg (899 D)
10 Mar 17 UTC
Diplomacy Supreme
Oh, because the game crushed and all of us were defeated, only Turkey not, I suppose he won. Am I right?
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13 Mar 17 UTC
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13 Mar 17 UTC
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Anon (?? D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
New Fun Game For Fun People
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30468 Password is a, non-fun people are not allowed
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Anon (?? D)
11 Mar 17 UTC
Looking for replacement player for brand new game
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30378
No moves made yet.
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Mapu (2086 D (B))
09 Feb 17 UTC
Diplomacy Historians
When Diplomacy first came out, was the classic board exactly as it is now (pretty much perfect) or did it evolve to where it is today?
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taylor4 (941 D)
08 Mar 17 UTC
Compromised Log ons
You get any sudden, new box msgs "connection not secure" MODS: hola !
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Kenpai (939 D X)
03 Mar 17 UTC
Cheaters
I have encountered a hacked account named HQDeevejot who is able to break games by exploiting a glitch, BEWARE
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Anon (?? D)
20 Feb 17 UTC
New WWIV game- come and play!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30278
Anon (?? D)
26 Feb 17 UTC
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30278 We need 18 people in three days, so please consider joining!
aman2000 (703 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
We now need 12 players in 2 days
Technostar (1962 D (B))
27 Feb 17 UTC
We are down to 8 more players! Come join the fun!
Mapu (2086 D (B))
27 Feb 17 UTC
I just read the pre-game press. Racist insults, real-life friends, PPSC -- sounds *so* tempting.
DogsRule11 (773 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
a. If people want to be rude, then we can tell the mods. Otherwise, we can't control people's actions.
b. It's anon, so the "friends" part can't affect this game.
c. What do you have against PPSC?
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
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Hi DogsRule, and welcome to the site. Perhaps after some time here you'll come to understand the concerns Map has noted. He and and many others of us are fans of the WW4 maps. Much like him I was tempted to have a look at this game until I looked closer and saw it was PPSC, so I passed. After Mapu's comments I glanced at the pre-game press and thanked my lucky stars that I didn't relent give it a try. My thoughts are:

a. We can best avoid juvenile behavior, gratuitous racism, and needless political diatribes by avoiding games that seek to create or dwell in the drama of it. Mapu isn't trying to have the game banned. He's noting that serious Dip players may want to avoid this train wreck. No need to involve the moderators. Self policing by avoidance is much more effective.
b. Apparently you've not played in enough games to see the potential for abuse of anonymity in such a contest. It screams stay miles away to me.
c. PPSC is not Diplomacy, which is by it's very nature WTA. PPSC strips away the very essence and objective of the game, and makes it about the arbitrary points. These game frequently see players throw/dump solos and otherwise modify their play for the purposes of obtaining unearned points. The only way a PPSC concept could really work is within a draw result of a WTA game.
DogsRule11 (773 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
Look, RUFFHAUS, I get your point, but this was just supposed to be a fun, large game on a map *where no one has soloed*. Criticize the racists and how I set up the game if you want, but at the end of the day, I just wanted to play a map that is not often used, and have fun with it. I certainly did not expect what people would say on the chat. If you have any suggestions for how to start a good WWIV game, by all means, I'd love to hear them.
DogsRule11 (773 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
For example: WTA, gunboat, not-anon, betsize 20, 2-day phases?
Matticus13 (1300 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
That would be a hell of a GB, lol. Fun though.
aman2000 (703 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
Guys please stop leaving this game we now need 12 players in 1.75 days
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
I really shouldn't have piled on in criticizing the game in your recruiting thread. I apologize.
Mitomon (974 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
Why do people like gunboat so much? I feel like it goes as much against the soul of Diplomacy as PPSC. I mean really? No talking in a game about negotiation? Sure you can send mini messages through builds and support holds and the like, but I don't find the fun in it.
Matticus13 (1300 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
It's certainly not for everyone, but I enjoy the challenge quite a bit. It allows me to play in more games simultaneously since no press is needed. I usually like to be in 3-4 press games, and use 2-3 gunboats to kill time and work on my skill as a player.
aman2000 (703 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
8 players in 1.25 days. Let's go people!
Mapu (2086 D (B))
28 Feb 17 UTC
The mods will extend the join time if you ask.
DogsRule11 (773 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
Thanks for reminding me!
aman2000 (703 D)
01 Mar 17 UTC
6 more players to go
DogsRule11 (773 D)
01 Mar 17 UTC
Now 5.
aman2000 (703 D)
01 Mar 17 UTC
Now 2
FlemGem (1551 D)
01 Mar 17 UTC
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I don't get the anti-ppsc snobbery. If you don't like it fine and well, but what's the point of pretending it's not "real" diplomacy? Diplomacy is a strategy board game, and every strategy board game I've ever played is loaded with people making emotionally driven choices. People in face to face play throw games all the time for a variety of reasons - most often "I'm pissed because you stabbed me" but also "I'd rather be second place than share a 5-way draw" or, "you're hot and you fluttered your eyelashes at me" (I played Dip in high school with girls, including the one I married). And further, Diplomacy purports to simulate international relations, which are all-too-often driven by such considerations as "you blasphemed our prophet" or "your skin is brown". So how is one variant or point system objectively more pure than any other? Take the hot chick and the point-monger into your strategic consideration and enjoy the GAME.
Fire Toad (930 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
Yea I don't get the anti-ppsc snobbery either. A lot of my in-person games ended in ties because they were dragging on too long. some of them ended early for mutual respect for how the others played. It is called Diplomacy anyways not conquest
Technostar (1962 D (B))
02 Mar 17 UTC
Even with PPSC, it would still be incredibly fun to score the first solo victory on this map (or even less than 5 players in a draw). Not to mention, the bet is only 10 tokens to join, so it's not like your rating will change too much.
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
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If you don't understand the objections to PPSC, then you probably don't understand the game. As evidenced by your posts, you guys clearly do not. The is no such thing as second place in Diplomacy. You either win, lose, or draw equally with all partners. I understand that players frequently throw games after a stab, or for slights, and even for eye rolls, or for a variety of other reasons. The difference in Diplomacy is that if you throw a solo, you lose like everyone else. Rewarding any player with points for allowing a solo against them is contrary to the objective of the game. It's no longer Diplomacy at that point. The PPSC set up not only offers that, it encourages it. Maybe it's because we live in the everyone gets a trophy era now. It's not snobbery or elitism. It's fundamental mechanics of the game.

There's no objection to draws. Draws are perfectly acceptable results, mutually agreed to among all surviving players. The game played correctly is intended to encourage draws as an alternative to losing, while the novelty of victory is meant to tempt players to risk it all. Thrown solos for reason such as second place loser points cheapen the accomplishments of earned solos.
PPSC is for those unwilling to stab and go for the win. Sorry, I play WTA. It's the only way to play. It's as close to the way the game was originally designed as we come with a points system. Of course, unrated is the truest version of the game.
kaner406 (1259 D Mod (B) (B))
02 Mar 17 UTC
Agreed, and this is an old debate. If you are going to compete for points then WTA is really the only option for all the reasons Ruff mentioned earlier. I should mention here that point gathering is kind of superfluous on this site as the HoF works on vPoints not buy-in, cop-out points... As well as note that YCHTTs statement regarding unrated... well it is really the purest form of Diplomacy, unless you are on an internet gaming site and think that ratings somehow mean anything (looking at you Amby)... :)

For the old timers here please consider this a chance to 'educate' some of our more recent arrivals as to the pitfalls of falling into the carebear trap... I reckon this discussion erupts approx. every 12 months or so, give or take. It's about time to offer the forum a refresher.
mouse (1894 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
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I play PPSC because draws in anything short of "this is an extant stalemate line, the game is literally pointless to continue" are an anathema, and anything that can encourage people to keep playing rather than settling for such rubbish is a good thing.
RUFFHAUS 8 (2454 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
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If you've never seen two guys go from fists to flowers when a solo threat emerges, then you're simply missing out on what makes Diplomacy the greatest game in the world.
FlemGem (1551 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
"The is no such thing as second place in Diplomacy." - Well said, Ricky Bobby.
FlemGem (1551 D)
02 Mar 17 UTC
I should probably say this: I don't throw games. Ever. Never have. Not even to the hot chick (she quit playing because I kept stabbing her). But I've enjoyed WTA games, and I've enjoyed PPSC games. I've enjoyed classic, and I've enjoyed variants.

Life, IMO, is just all-around more fun when you have a broader palate.
Well, for me, it's the Win/Lose/Draw/Survive percentages that matter most. With WTA, I get the purer form and with unrated the purest form so that I feel my percentages reflect my true skill. I win or draw about half the time, get defeated more than 1/3rd of the time and survive less than 1/5th of the time (I'm pretty good at spotting and poitning out the solo run before it's too late).


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Mitomon (974 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
Introduction
Hello everyone! I'm new to this site so I'd like to get to know you guys. You guys can call me Mitomon, mitomon, Mito or mito. I like chocolate ice cream and taking over the world. What about you guys?
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Nuclear Surok (1056 D)
27 Feb 17 UTC
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"Papers,Please" variant idea
I just thought,wouldnt the papers,please variant be a nice addition to vdip?The map should be something like this- http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=190964694&insideModal=1
Every country borders at least two others,but there are no neutrals.The SC names are already in(tho nirsk should just be a province).I have no idea how to program or balance stuff,so,can this even be done without copyright problems?And can this be an actual variant someday?
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The Ambassador (1639 D (B) (B))
31 Jan 17 UTC
New podcast segment: Dip Dilemmas
In a semi recent podcast episode Kaner and I floated the idea of a Diplomacy Dilemmas segment where players either post via a forum thread or PM us a tricky problem/issue they're having in a game for our "sage" guidance. We'll be recording next week, so send your dilemmas through!
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
"Per rulebook" press option
From: http://webdiplomacy.net/gamecreate.php
"Per rulebook" means no discussion during builds and retreats as per the original Diplomacy rulebook. In this mode, saved retreats and builds are automatically readied for the next turn.
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Anon (?? D)
24 Feb 17 UTC
Awesome game. You'll live forever if you join! With colonials!
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30322
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kaner406 (1259 D Mod (B) (B))
04 Feb 17 UTC
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Any interest in a WWIV bourse game?
I'm just testing the water here, but after the current KW901 bourse game concludes (not for a while yet), I was wondering about getting a mega WWIV bourse game up and running...
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aman2000 (703 D)
22 Feb 17 UTC
World War 6
If anyone wants to play a WWIX variant (36 players) then join the game World war 6 revisited. Hope we get enough players and have a lot of fun!!
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Flame (1052 D (B))
07 Feb 17 UTC
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For all mapmakers & adapters.
Dear Sirs! I don't know what had happened to Oli, may be he got some business and got no time to cope with DiploTestLab. So I decided to start DiploTestLab2 to make our job go on...
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21 Feb 17 UTC
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Maucat (1866 D)
20 Feb 17 UTC
To Adninistrators: please pause this game.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=29678#gamePanel
I'll be without internet connection from February 22nd to 27th due to a job journey abroad, please can you pause this game otherwise i'll be in civil disorder, thanks.
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