Here is the list with known absences marked on it by the names of the players taking them. If you would like to add an absence to the list, go ahead and do so. That being said, I would prefer not to wait until August to start the next round so if you can go without a break, please remove your absence from the list.

Winners' Round (Known World 901)
Wolfman
gantz
Jimbozig
Leif_Syverson
drano010 -- August 3-6
BeauLemioux
SacredDigits
LakersFan
gman314
Captainmeme -- July 20 - August 3
Ezpickins
Adammaa
?
?
?

Second Chance Round (Modern Diplomacy 2?)
Bozo
fasces349
Spartan22
nickbar1
G
The Ambassador
thatwasawkward
Ender
Gobbledydook
GOD

Winners' Round (Known World 901)
Wolfman
gantz
Jimbozig
Leif_Syverson
drano010 -- August 3-6
BeauLemioux
SacredDigits
LakersFan
gman314
Captainmeme -- July 20 - August 3
Ezpickins -- July 15 - 22
Adammaa
?
?
?

Second Chance Round (Modern Diplomacy 2?)
Bozo
fasces349
Spartan22
nickbar1
G
The Ambassador
thatwasawkward
Ender
Gobbledydook
GOD

The Winners round is already looking at an August start unfortunately.

take me off the list. I was just mentioning ill be gone. Ill either check in or get a sub. Will no one have any access when gone? Or what about subs?

Wait.. So because my name is on there, I am marked absent? Or is it not described clearly. Since I'm active. All I need to know/get is the game and the password when it's open and ready.

Could the second chance round get started since it seems no one on the list has absences?

adammaa: The absences are beside the names of those who have mentioned that they'll be absent.

Spartan22: If you want to start your round, go ahead. You have the list, and you have the parameters.

Here is the list again.
Winners' Round (Known World 901)
Wolfman
gantz
Jimbozig
Leif_Syverson
drano010
BeauLemioux
SacredDigits
LakersFan
gman314
Captainmeme -- July 20 - August 3
Ezpickins -- July 15 - 22
Adammaa
?
?
?

Second Chance Round (Modern Diplomacy 2?)
Bozo
fasces349
Spartan22
nickbar1
G
The Ambassador
thatwasawkward
Ender
Gobbledydook
GOD

Why is the migraine game still paused? Beta should have returned by now.

regarding: gameID=8123
should we force draw this?

I don't see why not, Lambda can only benefit from this.

forced the draw to speed things along.

Back from holidays now & can play the 2nd chance round of Modern :-)

With the other Migraine game drawn, this should be the list then:

Winners' Round (Known World 901)
Wolfman
gantz
Jimbozig
Leif_Syverson
drano010
BeauLemioux
SacredDigits
LakersFan
gman314
Captainmeme -- July 20 - August 3
Ezpickins -- July 15 - 22
Adammaa
Diplomat33
kaner406
myLAAN

It has been suggested on the Bourse thread (threadID=28446) that we 'bourse' the Winners' round...

my question is would players have a problem with this?

I'm fine with it (then again, I am the one who suggested it :D)

No problem

I object. I disapprove of having 7 to 10 extra people analyzing and COMMENTATING on a tournament game in a public forum. It will, without a shadow of a doubt, affect peoples play.

Not entirely sure what Bourse the Winners' round actually means. I am gathering it means posted in that thread. I kind of agree with drano019 as other commenting could effect others play. However, more important is if someone is insulted by their actions. Someone not playing starts a conversation about it. Then the one that is playing get offended and comments back. Then there goes the Anonymity. That kind of defeats the purpose if I am understanding what is meant by the question of the Bourse thread. However, I am not familiar with the word Bourse so I might be confused somewhat.

@drano - if the bourse was to conducted under anonymous rules, that is no investor can communicate to another investor, surely that would mitigate the problem of the bourse effecting the game in progress (I would assume that under this circumstance that there would be no posting in-game about what a nations stock is worth)

@Wolfman - Bourse is a kind of market system that 'bets' on countries value, it rises and falls depending upon how that country happens to perform in the game.

*Under anonymous Bourse; each investor would have a pseudonym (known only to the GM), and the market results would not be published in-game, only in the thread that publishes what the investors earn/loose.

Personally I would love to have players speculating on a game that I was in, and on top of that observing my maneuvers and my potential to survive/win/draw against other players. I don't know about you but I like the idea that other players are observing intensely what is occurring in the game.

The trick is to establish a system that would allow for such intense observation, that does not affect the game in progress. We have seen from the first trial run that players who had foreknowledge that the game is being 'boursed' might attempt to influence the market.

As long as there is absolutely no discussion of the game on the forum and it remains in email, i have no issue with it. It just needs to stay separate from the game which means investors need to be careful about accidentially commenting on the bourse to people who they are friends with on the site.

So how can we avoid this? In particular how can we avoid either influencing each other in the system of vDip that we have at the moment?/?/?

The only way is to keep all discussion of the bourse off the forum. Any discussion at all has the ability to impact the game, hence the 'no talking about ongoing games' forum etiquette rule.

Perhaps a PM-type system, where investors are only informed of their stocks/holding who sold what via PM?

I have to say that to do so will be quite difficult for the person who is running Bourse. From personal experience, the PM system allowed here is inadequate. E-mail would solve many problems in this regard as the GM can then easily send the information to each investor quickly without having to re-type each individual players stats in every PM.

I think email is the best option. It not only simplifies things for the gm, but it also completely separates the bourse from vdip, which would otherwose be a problem.

I'm not a big fan of boursing a tournament game, but like drano, I'd consent to having it boursed if there were guarantees that there would be no effect on game play in the tournament (and penalties for players/investors who do try to influence the game because it is being boursed).

Since I haven't been following the bourse thread, I'm not sure how players with prior knowledge used that knowledge to influence the game, but how can we ensure that doesn't happen here?

I would still disagree with having the game boursed.

For example, me and Italy only did a key lepanto because we wanted to see how the markets would react to it.

Even if the currencies are only announced in the thread, players will still take interest, and may make moves accordingly

What if the currencies where only announced via pm. Then the players would have no idea what effect they are having.

How about you do the Bourse thing off the VDip forum, in a Google+ group or something (not sure how G+ groups work, but I've heard that they're quite good). Alternatives are a Facebook group or on the WebDip forum (so that the players could view the thread if they want to and avoid it if they don't).
Tbh, I'm with Kaner - I would like to see how markets react to my desicions. Still, I understand that other people might not.