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Guaroz (2030 D (B))
30 Aug 14 UTC
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BENCHMARK GB TOURNAMENT
Hi all, I’d like to check if there's some interest for this 20-players Tournament idea.
In case we got a few people less or many people more, I could change within a few days the structure to adapt it to the new number, but the ideal number would be 20. More to follow.
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Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
I demand an apology
I was accused of lying about my mother being on her deathbed!
That demands an apology!
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
In the Sealanes game I asked some questions about missed phases. I asked because I have an almost guaranteed retreat OTB with no options. I can retreat OTB and nowhere else). It's ok if it's a simple situation where the game code can not differentiate things, I will try to log on at that time! (but it does seem rather silly otherwise)
I asked because I am headed out of town to attend to my mother who was just put into hospice, she is on her deathbed with only a few days to live.

Anyways, the Philippine player has sent me a letter saying he does not believe this to be true and says I am attempting to game the system (yet again, never did I ask for an extension nor did I complain about things, it was a simple question only and I accepted it though yes I did say it was silly) I will not stand for anyone doubting me and my mothers death, there is and was no reason for me to lie, I have nothing to gain by such a lie and it is not affecting the game in the least, still he has the nerve to accuse me of making this up.

I demanded his apology or asked him to be removed from this site. Does anyone here support such rude and insensitive behavior? Are there no lines that can not be crossed? He went too damned far, swearing and insulting me constantly is one thing, but calling me a liar about my mother dying is pushing that envelope well past the limits and I hope others would agree!
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
and should he not apologize then I am gone! I would urge others to consider doing the same, there should be no room for such behavior! Free speech is fine, but you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, same thing here, he crossed a line and made me so very mad!
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
oh, I should say if he does not ask forgiveness (that I would of course give) and he were not then banned from the site that is. Either works for me.
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
OK, an update
I told him even a private apology was fine and I would call off the dogs. He then posted in the game forum that he did no such thing. I proved him wrong

things transpired as follows:

And it would be low, except I said absolutely nothing about the guy's mother.

Your quote:
"Your complaint is with being forced to submit a retreat order for a dislodged unit with no retreat options, and that you might miss this because of some alleged need"


...some alleged need?
AFTER I made reference as to why, and AFTER I accused you of being insensitive about that. How did you know I had an "alleged need" unless you read about that need?

and his private reply:
"No apology is warranted or forthcoming. You are a proven and habitual liar. I do not believe anything that you say. On top of being a habitual liar, you are a fucking idiot. You have no grasp of the English language in either reading skill comprehension or writing ability. And on top of all that you are a whiney fuck. "


I call for his removal from this game and from this website, nobody should have to be exposed to this!
Strider (1421 D)
20 May 15 UTC
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Why you care about playing while your mother is on her death bed is beyond me! Miss turns and be with her.

It's a game
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
exactly!

My first chance to get there was tomorrow AM, and that's why I asked about the situation regarding retreats (all taken care of now by the way). But do notice, I never asked for an extension or delay, never did I ask for a special favor, I do not need a sitter. This in no way affected the game, so WHY do I get this response from him? Yes, I could mute him (again) but does that give him permission to be so rude and insensitive?
Tomahaha (1170 D)
20 May 15 UTC
and if you did not know my Mother was dying (claiming it was not aimed at my mother but also claiming this was an "alleged need" then why did you say a payer for me last night? I DO appreciate that if it was real, I question the sincerity because your other statements don't jive with this. and if you did say such a prayer, then wouldn't a simple "sorry about your Mom, I was out of line" be in order? Simple as that.
Strider (1421 D)
20 May 15 UTC
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Tom you really need to get your priorities right. The energy you are giving here is pointless especially considering your circumstances.

Your insistance for an appology is borderline psychotic.
Get help from a professional. Please

Dr. Recommended (1516 D Mod (B))
20 May 15 UTC
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Tom,

1)
I am not Philippines in the game you refer to.

2)
I'm very sorry to hear about your mother's condition. I know from experience what you may be feeling and going through, and I know the way it can affect everything else in your life. We're playing a game here, which means nothing next to life and death in the real world. Even so, many of us invest a great deal of mental and even emotional energy in our games, and it doesn't take much to generate significant negative stress. There's a strong probability that such helpless emotional turmoil as your family situation currently creates results in amplifying the things here that cause you stress and anxiety.

I've certainly given you plenty of crap in your time here, and as it is with many players in the community the intention is good-natured ribbing. Sure, as many can attest, I can be a grumpy, nasty s.o.b. when the conditions are right, and I don't hold back from speaking the truth as I see it without adding a sugar coating, but I'm not mean-spirited. I feel terrible when I know I've gone too far and made someone feel badly. As a member of this community, I'm probably fairly middle-of-the-road when it comes to this. There are many who are nothing but polite and positive, and many who are not.

You have to understand that you -- knowingly or not -- invite the kind of treatment you constantly rail about. For some players it's irresistible to toss a match in the direction of your pool of gasoline, because it's guaranteed to produce an explosive reaction, usually far out of proportion and relevance to the initial spark. Now, before you say that verbal abuse is never acceptable and should never be tolerated, and before you draw comparisons to extreme analogies that have no true relevance (Pedophilia? Really, Tom?), let me repeat a point I've tried to make to you before.

You may well have clearly defined criteria for what constitutes verbal abuse, personal attacks, or just plain bad manners. But those criteria are your own. Each one of us has our own definitions and limits, and collectively they probably form a bell curve of sorts. So there's a spectrum of acceptable behavior. As a community our actions and words may inform the moderators who ultimately dictate what kind of behavioral controls the site will enforce. As you've noticed, there really aren't many. That's because it's nearly impossible. As I asked in-game (my identity is likely no secret, and I've long been eliminated), who gets to decide what is and is not acceptable? Who the hell would want that job? [Now hiring: Arbiter of Assholes]

To make a short story long, it's ultimately up to us individually to be grown-ups and handle what comes our way. If someone is over the line, we can mute them. We can block them from playing in the same game we are. We can certainly attempt to address them head on, to reason like adults and hope for progress. Then, when that most likely fails and results in doubling down on the insults, we can simply.......ignore them.

Most of your rants have continued far beyond the early stage where someone gave you the information you needed, the tools to address your problem. Blocking. Muting. In this recent case, the ability to find a sitter. Why didn't you just ask someone to take your game, enter the disband order, and be done with it? Thousands of words could have been saved by taking the simple action.

When I have been targeted by nasty insults, or been subjected to someone's bigoted point of view, I have simply ignored it -- and <Every Single Time>, it has just gone away. I'm not going to change anyone here, I'm not going to make anybody adhere to my own personal standards. Why would I try?

Tom, this is an internet community comprised of people representing numerous nations and cultural quirks, a wide spectrum of ages, personality types, backgrounds and life experience. I have absolutely no expectation that people will behave as I might wish them to. All that considered, I find this to be an extremely welcoming, intelligent, tolerant, and -- let's be honest -- very good-looking community of people. Of course there are flare-ups, of course there are those who have very different approaches to communication and standards thereof. *It's a community of hundreds of people!* On the internet, no less.

You've got all the tools you need to control who you play games with. If it's still too much for your standards of decency, then just don't participate. Return to one of the sites full of well-mannered gentlemen that you keep comparing us to. But please, stop shouting endlessly in the middle of the room. It does nothing for your cause, and only invites and encourages more matches to be thrown your way.

I hope you stay. You've got a lot to contribute, and I'm always in favor of growing the community, here on vDip and in the game overall. I thoroughly enjoyed playing your Explore variant. On a more human level, I think we give up on each other and put up walls far too easily. I'm more willing to accept people's differences and work cooperatively around them than to shut people out for offending me in some way.

This is all just my opinion of course, and there will be a range of agreement and disagreement. That's my point. I can't change that, and neither can you.

I hope your mother defies the odds and sees many happier days. I wish you strength in navigating a very difficult time. When and if you come back, I hope you enjoy hundreds of games here with the players you choose to engage with.

- Brian
GOD (1550 D Mod (B))
20 May 15 UTC
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This thread is being locked as the issue is being dealt with internally by the mod team.


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Mapu (2086 D (B))
19 May 15 UTC
Rules/etiquette question
Anon full press game. I think I know who another player is. Is it cheating to warn a third player about this person based on their moves in the current game and past reputation?
4 replies
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Anon (?? D)
28 Feb 15 UTC
King of Gunboat
Anonymous, WTA, Gunboat, 400pt buy-in, Day and a half long phases. gameID=22411 No riff raff.
42 replies
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Zach0805 (811 D)
18 May 15 UTC
Imperial
Imperialism!
Pick Countries
gameID=23226
0 replies
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Mapu (2086 D (B))
09 Apr 15 UTC
Google Translate Game
I'm proposing a new game... details inside
80 replies
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kaner406 (1352 D Mod (B) (B))
09 May 15 UTC
The Reconquista circa 1030? A diplomacy variant
I was just reading about the Spanish inquisition and it occured to me that an interesting time period would be the Spanish reconquista. After a google search I found this map:
http://www.kupax.com/rewrite.php?rewrite-url=files/16932_3ebc0/Reconquista.gif
17 replies
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Valis2501 (985 D)
20 Jan 15 UTC
5-game GB Series
15 D each. Random countries. Classic map. WTA. Anon. No messaging.
153 replies
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bobafro (1080 D)
04 May 15 UTC
Live WW2 Variant
Hey folks, if anyone fancies a quick game feel free to join.

http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=23098
4 replies
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Anon (?? D)
27 Apr 15 UTC
Competitive Gobble earth game
For those interested in a competitive game ask me for the password
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=23045
I am sitting this one out.
1 reply
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TheatreVarus (874 D)
19 Apr 15 UTC
Potential Fix for Convoy Orders
Is there a way to fix convoy orders to where there is a set of blue lines leading from the convoyed armies' location, to each of the convoying fleets, to the end location, rather than a red move order directly to the destination with connecting blue lines from the fleets
3 replies
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diatarn_iv (1661 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Country assignment
I do not know how many of you played on the "diplomacy judges" of old...

But I was wondering if someone might be interested in introducing the semi-random country assignment that they used, and whether it's doable from the point of view of the code.
3 replies
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The Ambassador (1652 D (B) (B))
15 Apr 15 UTC
Good neighbors (neighbours) variant idea
Hi everyone

I'd like to get people's views on this suggested variant idea...
16 replies
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Dr. Rec's Tournament Sideshow
Open to all, details to follow
3 replies
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
14 Mar 15 UTC
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Negotiation? What's that?
It’s been more than one year since I played my last full-press game.
Well… I want to start another one in order to check if all those gunboats made me forget how to play diplomacy.
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Unmuddler (876 D)
12 Apr 15 UTC
Confused
I played as the trolls (Light Green, upper-left corner of the map). Why didn't my fleet bounce the Pirates from the High Seas (Autumn, 1)?

Am I misunderstanding something?
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The Ambassador (1652 D (B) (B))
27 Feb 15 UTC
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Extreme Personalities: 2015 edition
You know the drill, scroll down...
125 replies
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Menkara (1065 D)
02 Apr 15 UTC
"Draw" games?
How to end a game in a multi-player draw? Is it possible on this site? If so, where is it documented. Is there a way to grant "proxy" to another player for any period of time? Where would that be documented? Is that enough questions for one post?
2 replies
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Decima Legio (1987 D)
28 Mar 15 UTC
Webdiplomacy.it
What happened??
11 replies
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ghug (1012 D)
23 Mar 15 UTC
Online Diplomacy Championship
A lot of you are active on webDip too, so apologies for making you read this twice, but we're trying to get a tournament with players from all around the internet started, and I'd love for any of you that aren't on/don't check webDip (and all of you who are as well) to join. More inside.
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gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
01 Apr 15 UTC
Hey, Butterhead
So Texas is seemingly looking hard only at Shaka Smart. Gregg Marshall from Wichita State is seemingly not being looked at in the same way. For all of the hoopla over the Final Four run, do you have any insight as to why Shaka Smart has never won a conference title in either the Colonial or a gutted Atlantic 10?
0 replies
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EFTBSTHGK1337 (943 D X)
27 Mar 15 UTC
I live!
Thanks to Mr Oli!
5 replies
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Maucat (1866 D)
27 Mar 15 UTC
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Maps of IMperial Diplomacy II disappear
The site is unable to charge the maps of Imperial Diplomacy II so it's impossible see anything of what happened in those games.
Can someone resolve the problem?
Thanks.
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EFTBSTHGK1337 (943 D X)
27 Mar 15 UTC
Classic
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=22748
1 reply
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Anon (?? D)
18 Mar 15 UTC
World War IV - Five players needed!
gameID=22270
World War IV Public Press PPSC
Five players needed to replace players who have left - game hasn't started yet.
1 reply
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Al Swearengen (1000 D)
07 Mar 15 UTC
Radio Free Webdiplomacy
Thank you for tuning in, Friends.
11 replies
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Tyran (817 D)
17 Mar 15 UTC
Welcome me back with a good game.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=22648
Been a long time since I played on vdip. I have a game under my belt recently but I'm hoping I can get a good one together to welcome me back.
2 replies
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Mapu (2086 D (B))
11 Mar 15 UTC
Fellow WWIV experts and other Dip Players
You should do well at this. I got 16 out of 18 and would have gotten about 3 out of 18 if I'd never played Diplomacy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/robinedds/the-hardest-name-that-country-quiz-youll-take-today#.arM1nb0z5e
12 replies
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Anon (?? D)
05 Mar 15 UTC
Play Me - I Need to Avoid Working
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=22486
1 reply
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nschaumann (951 D)
05 Mar 15 UTC
Help!
How do I create a private game?
1 reply
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